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0 pointspiva008d ago0 comments

Poland, Germany, Switzerland, Benelux, the Nordics, Baltics, most of Central Europe don't have a need for AC. It might make life more comfortable during some days of heatwaves but it's definitely not a need to survive.

Southern Europe has experienced more scorching heat the past 1-2 decades and AC is going to become a necessity given the trend of climate warming but it's not Arizona.

Also I think people aren't aware that the USA doesn't use the same methodology to count heat-related deaths, a heart attack from someone working out in the fields on 35C+ weather is not counted as heat-related, Scientific American published an article about it back in 2024[0].

[0] https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/u-s-deaths-from-h...

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weatherlite8d ago· 3 in thread

> It might make life more comfortable during some days of heatwaves but it's definitely not a need to survive.

Well I don't know , I lived 4 years in the Netherlands in one of those apartments that have huge windows on every room. During the summer some days got closed to 37-38c and the sun sets at what , 11PM ? I was pretty scared our newborn might die - I put a fan right on her of course but I'm not sure this setup is OK at all.

b40d-48b2-979e8d ago

    the sun sets at what , 11PM ?

No. Even now, in the longest days of the year, the sun sets at 10pm, and we're not even into the hottest days of the year for another month or two as the days continue to get shorter again.

weatherlite8d ago

Yeah 10PM is still really bad, the house becomes a freaking oven

b40d-48b2-979e8d ago

The numbers you cite are from last year, which was unusual historically as records, not the norm. The sunset in the hottest month will be 9pm, and those highs of >30C are experienced for less than one week. I think you're missing the point of the parent posters where it's over 25C in the large parts of the US for 3-4 months of the year.

RandomLensman8d ago· 2 in thread

If "need" is defined as directly required to survive, but that isn't how I would define it. (So many things aren't "needed" then.)

piva00OP8d ago

A need is a necessity, is AC a necessity or a comfort? It's only a need if without it your life would be so insufferable that you cannot live normally, otherwise it's not a need but a comfort.

Many things aren't needed, survival doesn't mean biological survival so you don't need to bring up "a smartphone isn't a need" since without one a life in modern society becomes quite insufferable (banking access, government access, etc.).

Is AC a need or a comfort to you given this?

RandomLensman8d ago

Some people live their lives quite ok without a smartphone in Germany, for example - so not a need there either.

I don't like the heat, so need for me - comfort is a need.

dzhiurgis8d ago

Baltics definitely have need for AC for few weeks in summer. Just because some people get by, doesn't mean there isn't a need.

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weatherlite8d ago· 3 in thread

> It might make life more comfortable during some days of heatwaves but it's definitely not a need to survive.

b40d-48b2-979e8d ago

    the sun sets at what , 11PM ?

No. Even now, in the longest days of the year, the sun sets at 10pm, and we're not even into the hottest days of the year for another month or two as the days continue to get shorter again.

weatherlite8d ago

Yeah 10PM is still really bad, the house becomes a freaking oven

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RandomLensman8d ago· 2 in thread

If "need" is defined as directly required to survive, but that isn't how I would define it. (So many things aren't "needed" then.)

piva00OP8d ago

A need is a necessity, is AC a necessity or a comfort? It's only a need if without it your life would be so insufferable that you cannot live normally, otherwise it's not a need but a comfort.

Is AC a need or a comfort to you given this?

RandomLensman8d ago

Some people live their lives quite ok without a smartphone in Germany, for example - so not a need there either.

I don't like the heat, so need for me - comfort is a need.

dzhiurgis8d ago

Baltics definitely have need for AC for few weeks in summer. Just because some people get by, doesn't mean there isn't a need.

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