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0 pointshparadiz5d ago0 comments

Germans will talk a lot about data privacy but then do stuff like this regularly.

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Loranubi5d ago· 3 in thread

One is people one is companies.

It sends very weird signals when the EU will fine an American company over some data moving in a direction they don't like while at the same time EU governments will allow home grown companies to de facto force people into using products from those same American companies all while lecturing us about duopolies and privacy only to re-enforce those same problematic patterns. It is absurd.

ahartmetz5d ago

All countries are more lenient with their own companies. Remember who started grounding the 737 Max? It wasn't the FAA, an otherwise highly respected organization. Who is paranoid about Chinese routers while spying on everyone? Etc.

mindslight5d ago

No, it's not weird at all. They're each just an outcome of two different regulatory philosophies about how to protect users. We might want both because we're coming from an individualist hacker mindset, and thus see them as similar issues. But this is not how regulatory environments work (unfortunately).

From what I can surmise, the German/EU philosophy is more of a closed world approach - accepting that companies will keep control, then government regulates the companies to stop the companies-with-control from causing harm. If you don't like the harm, your recourse-focus is to petition the government to stop it (eg GDPR). Whereas the US philosophy is more open world - once someone "chooses" to patronize a company, then the company is free to do whatever they want. Your recourse-focus is to stop using that company.

They both have shortcomings and glaring loopholes, of course.

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