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0 pointsnixon_why6912d ago0 comments

If the bones are a little longer, it's a Jolly Roger. If the teeth were longer, it would be a punisher skull. If it weren't turned at that particular angle it would just be a generic skull. If it were 2 angular lightning bolts, it would obviously be SS but a skull is really common in a lot of contexts.

If you happened to clock this particular skull shape as a symbol from an SS division, then congrats, but 95% of people just would not and that's why it didn't land as a scandal. Everyone said "Huh. I didn't know either." and then accepted "Marine gets dumb skull tattoo while drunk on shore leave" as a fairly normal thing to have happened.

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utdoctor12d ago· 6 in thread

If I had wheels I’d be a bicycle. I don’t see your point? It’s very obvious what it is and just because you can alter an icon to make it look like something else doesn’t change what it is.

Ignorance of something doesn’t change what it is. “Oops I accidentally had a Nazi for nearly 20 years and only had it covered up 9 months ago when it became a political liability” isn’t a good look to say the least.

nixon_why69OP12d ago

My point is that it's not very obvious what it is unless you are super studied in Nazi symbology. I thought I was clear but there it is in case I wasn't.

If this were a swastika, the SS lightning bolts or even the Iron Cross, yeah, that looks pretty Nazi. Instead it's a skull and crossbones just like every other one used all over the place, including the very cool jolly roger, except this one happens to be Nazi. I didn't know, most people didn't know, he can credibly say he didn't know, and we all think the jolly roger's cool. Dog's not gonna hunt.

WickyNilliams11d ago

I am not super studied in nazi symbology. I learnt about this symbol in high school history class btw.

It is not a regular skull and crossbones anymore than the iron cross (which you identify as nazi symbolism) is a regular cross. It's strange to insist on the former, while distinguishing the latter as obviously nazi.

utdoctor12d ago

“My point is that it's not very obvious what it is unless you are super studied in Nazi symbology”

Or if you ever played a WWII themed video game (Wolfenstein, Call of Duty), or if you’ve ever watched a WWII show like Band of Brothers or watched a major WWII movie like Schindlers List or Saving Private Ryan. I could go on, it’s prominent in nearly any WWII media.

Honestly, I don’t know if people toting the line saying it’s “obscure” are intentionally lying because he aligns with their political agenda or are completely oblivious to any level of detail in any media.

It’s really astonishing.

nielsbot11d ago

Not sure what to tell you--I like many others here it seems (and probably elsewhere) hadn't even heard of a totenkopf before this issue was raised. It's a non-issue. Honestly I think it's a bit strange that you think it's so recognizable.

nixon_why69OP12d ago

Bro, I am not lying, there are skulls and crossbones from so many sources. I saw all those movies, I knew some Nazi units used skulls just like units of many militaries, pirates, motorcycle gangs etc. It's a cross-cultural symbol for "we fuck shit up".

If you examined so much Nazi symbology that you would immediately flag this as a particularly Nazi skull based on the angle and bone length, you are the unusual one. It's cool to have interests but understand that the rest of us just see a skull and don't have nearly the response we would to a swastika.

katbyte12d ago

You do realize there are many people, especially younger folk, who will never have played or seen the media listed? And if they did not even noticed the symbol?

I’m older and have and I didn’t even know there was a special Nazi skull symbol while I do know about many of their other symbols.

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utdoctor12d ago· 6 in thread

If I had wheels I’d be a bicycle. I don’t see your point? It’s very obvious what it is and just because you can alter an icon to make it look like something else doesn’t change what it is.

nixon_why69OP12d ago

My point is that it's not very obvious what it is unless you are super studied in Nazi symbology. I thought I was clear but there it is in case I wasn't.

WickyNilliams11d ago

I am not super studied in nazi symbology. I learnt about this symbol in high school history class btw.

utdoctor12d ago

“My point is that it's not very obvious what it is unless you are super studied in Nazi symbology”

It’s really astonishing.

nielsbot11d ago

nixon_why69OP12d ago

katbyte12d ago

You do realize there are many people, especially younger folk, who will never have played or seen the media listed? And if they did not even noticed the symbol?

I’m older and have and I didn’t even know there was a special Nazi skull symbol while I do know about many of their other symbols.

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