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0 pointsrvz19d ago0 comments

100%. Unfortunately those not in the depths of mission critical systems or regulated products will continue to believe that producing tons of code quickly using LLMs without humans in these systems is acceptable.

Here's an example of what we will continue to see with folks fully immersed in gen AI psychosis:

"The creator of claude code said that he no longer writes code for about 6 months and now has Claude doing all his work now. He also said recently that he no longer prompts Claude and now has it running in loops and it is self-improving itself and performing better than a human!"

If the code produced by the LLM is perfect, the LLM takes the credit. But when a disaster happens, you cannot blame the LLM and it then falls on the human who did it.

I don't think SWEs heavily vibe-coding with LLMs realize the risk in not understanding what the code the LLM being produced is doing even after generating tests (lol). We will see more of this too. [0]

[0] https://sketch.dev/blog/our-first-outage-from-llm-written-co...

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oceanplexian19d ago· 14 in thread

Why is it such a dramatic statement for Boris to claim that he no longer writes code?

Are people on HN still typing out functions by hand one character at a time?

It would be like a developer in 2020 claiming that he only writes assembly because compilers can’t be trusted. No one is taking that person seriously. If you chose a career in tech you made a decision to work in one of the fastest moving fields in human history. Now it’s time to get over it, learn the new tools and adapt.

bigstrat200319d ago

> Now it’s time to get over it, learn the new tools and adapt.

No, thank you. I have used the new tools, determined that they aren't helpful to me, and set them aside as I would with any other bad tool. I don't feel the need to let hype take the steering wheel.

chipsrafferty18d ago

Let me guess, you used them 12 months ago?

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rvzOP19d ago

> Now it’s time to get over it, learn the new tools and adapt.

Exactly. You are free to use openclaw or a coding agent to build a competing bank, hedge-fund, hospital or even a new airliner because the previous ones were built by humans. Surely an AI can do it better by itself.

So why haven't you done it yet?

matkoniecz19d ago

> Are people on HN still typing out functions by hand one character at a time?

Yes, me. Yes, I tried LLMs for what I am doing and will try again in few months. No, there was no noticeable or clear improvement over doing it manually.

Yes, I am using some LLMs for some purposes but Claude Code had slight improvement, if any, not worth introducing proprietary dependency.

troupo19d ago

> Why is it such a dramatic statement for Boris to claim that he no longer writes code?

Because we can actually see the disjointed slop that Anthropic produces. And when issues happen, they can't fix them for weeks on end because no one understands what code does anymore, and all of their "hard problems causing issues" they blog about are literally "if we had actual engineers this wouldn't even be an issue to begin with". Like this bullshit they had in spring: https://www.anthropic.com/engineering/april-23-postmortem

> It would be like a developer in 2020 claiming that he only writes assembly because compilers can’t be trusted.

LLMs are not compilers. For a few very obvious reasons I'll leave as an exercise to figure out

lelanthran19d ago

> Now it’s time to get over it, learn the new tools and adapt.

If the AI is producing what you tell it to, why are you needed?

pyth019d ago

You answered your own question... you are needed to tell it what to do. Let's not pretend that someone with prior software skills will be able to produce larger scale and/or higher quality work compared to someone with no experience.

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msm_19d ago

>Are people on HN still typing out functions by hand one character at a time?

Well I use tab completion, of course. And I copy-paste snippets from LLM more often than from SO now. But otherwise not much has changed in my career in the last 5 years. Is this different for you?

I'm not fundamentally opposed to code generation, and I use LLMs for some taks, but I don't see myself vibecoding whole pages of production code. I vibecoded a throwaway note-taking app for myself though.

chipsrafferty18d ago

Yes. If you're copy posting code from LLMs you're in the minority of people who are "in the past". Most people are generating most of their code in ~1-200 LOC chunks, reviewing it, adjusting as needed (usually with another prompt) and then opening a PR, which gets reviewed both my LLM and other teammates.

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latentsea18d ago

Our whole team has transitioned to agentic engineering around the start of this year. We've been heavily investing in harness engineering to ensure final outputs are production quality and not slop.

These days it very much feels like the task has shifted from "building the system" to "building the system that builds the system".

It only looks to be trending one way.

rjrjrjrj19d ago

C'mon, the LLM/compiler false analogy? In 2026?

solenoid093719d ago

It is because HN is contrarian and behind the times.

I work at a big tech company and I don't know a single person that still hand writes code. Most people haven't hand written code for at least half a year now.

I do wonder what sort of bug is making its rounds on HN that people here find this so shocking and unbelievable.

troupo19d ago

The bug is called "applying actual engineering principles and critical thinking".

The absolute vast majority of people who point out AI's downsides have used it and use it. People who uncritically write things like "I work at a big tech company and I don't know a single person that still hand writes code." scare the shit out of us for a good reason.

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arkadiytehgraet18d ago

solenoid0937 is not working at any big tech company, instead they are being paid by Anthropic to spread unfounded LLM-hype. They have a history of doing that. See https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48270186 for more info.

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oceanplexian19d ago· 14 in thread

Why is it such a dramatic statement for Boris to claim that he no longer writes code?

Are people on HN still typing out functions by hand one character at a time?

bigstrat200319d ago

> Now it’s time to get over it, learn the new tools and adapt.

No, thank you. I have used the new tools, determined that they aren't helpful to me, and set them aside as I would with any other bad tool. I don't feel the need to let hype take the steering wheel.

chipsrafferty18d ago

Let me guess, you used them 12 months ago?

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rvzOP19d ago

> Now it’s time to get over it, learn the new tools and adapt.

So why haven't you done it yet?

matkoniecz19d ago

> Are people on HN still typing out functions by hand one character at a time?

Yes, me. Yes, I tried LLMs for what I am doing and will try again in few months. No, there was no noticeable or clear improvement over doing it manually.

Yes, I am using some LLMs for some purposes but Claude Code had slight improvement, if any, not worth introducing proprietary dependency.

troupo19d ago

> Why is it such a dramatic statement for Boris to claim that he no longer writes code?

> It would be like a developer in 2020 claiming that he only writes assembly because compilers can’t be trusted.

LLMs are not compilers. For a few very obvious reasons I'll leave as an exercise to figure out

lelanthran19d ago

> Now it’s time to get over it, learn the new tools and adapt.

If the AI is producing what you tell it to, why are you needed?

pyth019d ago

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msm_19d ago

>Are people on HN still typing out functions by hand one character at a time?

Well I use tab completion, of course. And I copy-paste snippets from LLM more often than from SO now. But otherwise not much has changed in my career in the last 5 years. Is this different for you?

chipsrafferty18d ago

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latentsea18d ago

Our whole team has transitioned to agentic engineering around the start of this year. We've been heavily investing in harness engineering to ensure final outputs are production quality and not slop.

These days it very much feels like the task has shifted from "building the system" to "building the system that builds the system".

It only looks to be trending one way.

rjrjrjrj19d ago

C'mon, the LLM/compiler false analogy? In 2026?

solenoid093719d ago

It is because HN is contrarian and behind the times.

I work at a big tech company and I don't know a single person that still hand writes code. Most people haven't hand written code for at least half a year now.

I do wonder what sort of bug is making its rounds on HN that people here find this so shocking and unbelievable.

troupo19d ago

The bug is called "applying actual engineering principles and critical thinking".

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arkadiytehgraet18d ago

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