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0 pointsmijoharas23d ago0 comments

I'm really sick of the enshittification of smart TV's.

A while after I've had my LG TV, and found every arcane different menu you need to remove all the ads. They started sending me ads via the notification pop-up.

This continued even after finding and removing the consent for advertising (that I'd missed in one of the consent pop-ups.)

I've considered and looked into "dumb" TVs, but I don't think they're for me. I just want one that's not enshittified!

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snapplebobapple23d ago· 2 in thread

the only good smart tv is one with no network connection. As long as the manufacturer has any control of the compute on your device they will always be pressured to abuse it to grow revenue. You need to budget 200 to 600 additional dollars for a linux box and use that

thesuitonym23d ago

That's still not good. I recently switched from a Sceptre dumb TV to a top of the line LG OLED model, and it is sooooo slow. Everything takes forever because it's got to wait for the network connection which doesn't exist, play all its stupid animations, run the "AI" bullshit, and attempt an internet connection again.

snapplebobapple23d ago

Then you did it wrong. The tv should be turned on and set to display one port, say hdmi1 then never touched again until its time to shut it off. Volume should be handled through hdmi-cec from the tvs perspective it should get an on or off signal and maybe some volume signals and it should display hdmi and that is the entorety of its existence.

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surajrmal23d ago· 2 in thread

This is not "enshittification". That implies it's gotten worse over time. Smart TVs have been doing this from the beginning.

mijoharasOP23d ago

I disagree. It's definitely gotten worse, notification ads for my TV for example.

LG also didn't used to have home screen ads, but that's a long time ago now.

antonvs23d ago

Smart TVs are the enshittification of regular TVs. An attempt to extract more money from the customer without providing a useful benefit.

cryo3223d ago· 1 in thread

I just don't bother with television full stop.

Geroke23d ago

I can't say I have either since they tried to change the format to cinema from electronic theatre.

thesuitonym23d ago· 1 in thread

Is it really enshittification if it was shit from the beginning?

Geroke23d ago

I disagree. I much preferred it when they didn't pretend that TV should be the same as cinema. Even the mistakes are entertaining whereas on modern TV, they tend to stand out.

rdschouw23d ago

Why not disconnect your smart TV from the internet and use [insert favorite streaming box]?

I use Apple TVs on all my smart TVs and none of them have ever been connected to the internet. No ads with consistent interface across TV brands.

ornornor23d ago

FWIW I’m pretty happy with my Panasonic OLED (2019 model), it has totally optional smart features (ie it has a Netflix app), works well offline, and turns on instantly.

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snapplebobapple23d ago· 2 in thread

thesuitonym23d ago

snapplebobapple23d ago

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surajrmal23d ago· 2 in thread

This is not "enshittification". That implies it's gotten worse over time. Smart TVs have been doing this from the beginning.

mijoharasOP23d ago

I disagree. It's definitely gotten worse, notification ads for my TV for example.

LG also didn't used to have home screen ads, but that's a long time ago now.

antonvs23d ago

Smart TVs are the enshittification of regular TVs. An attempt to extract more money from the customer without providing a useful benefit.

cryo3223d ago· 1 in thread

I just don't bother with television full stop.

Geroke23d ago

I can't say I have either since they tried to change the format to cinema from electronic theatre.

thesuitonym23d ago· 1 in thread

Is it really enshittification if it was shit from the beginning?

Geroke23d ago

I disagree. I much preferred it when they didn't pretend that TV should be the same as cinema. Even the mistakes are entertaining whereas on modern TV, they tend to stand out.

rdschouw23d ago

Why not disconnect your smart TV from the internet and use [insert favorite streaming box]?

I use Apple TVs on all my smart TVs and none of them have ever been connected to the internet. No ads with consistent interface across TV brands.

ornornor23d ago

FWIW I’m pretty happy with my Panasonic OLED (2019 model), it has totally optional smart features (ie it has a Netflix app), works well offline, and turns on instantly.

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