> This is a refreshing attitude!

Well, I think the attitude is that costs are allowed to escalate faster and more steeply than the features delivered. From that perspective, semantic versioning is a handy tool for adjusting pricing strategies. IMHO, it (versioning) only makes sense for open-source projects, where you can clearly see the actual changes made with each version upgrade. Anything else is more than a little suspicious…

What's refreshing about it given the context that 4.7 was a regression in many ways (including as measured by benchmarks)?

4.8 is also 2x more expensive for a "modest" performance bump. How refreshing.

This is just cope.

I’m pretty sure that switch has always been there, but turning it off doesn’t do what you want. It disables thinking entirely.

Yes, modest but tangible improvement - same modesty does not apply to the cost: https://artificialanalysis.ai/models/capabilities/coding#cod...

I was hoping that the web UI would be better -- I like Anthropic better than OpenAI from a values perspective and want to use their products, but ChatGPT in thinking mode has been just vastly better than claude.ai.So my fingers were crossed that these changes would bring it up to par.

But trying it out... alas, no. Simple factual questions where ChatGPT would go do a quick search and get the facts and report them back to me, get a "Great question! [totally invented bullshit]" from Claude, even with this new model and thinking set to high. I have to explicitly tell it to search to get it to look up basic facts, rather than it recognizing that it needs to do that, like GPT does.

Awesome, thanks for posting because I think I hit a possibly-spurious bug in turning Adaptive off when I switched models (4.6 -> 4.8, extra). Tried again, works as intended (I hope).

More importantly for me, though, is how CC will respond to 4.6-"only" flags for thinking. For now, it doesn't seem to clobber my setup.

It is refreshing but perhaps actually not warranted this time?

I mostly study web research, and Opus 4.7 was a regression on BrowseComp compared to Opus 4.6, which has been born out by my usage.

Opus 4.8 is now much better than either 4.7 or 4.6, and having it search the web is one of the primary use cases of chatbots.

Are they doing these smaller releases to attune users to a more incremental cycle of updates? Like, yeah other model providers do these major updates every x months, we on the other hand do incremental updates every x/2 months

I was working with opus 4.7 on a math formalization problem for several days and 4.8 one-shotted the proof from a clean description as soon as the update came through. I was very surprised.

The benchmark improvements actually look pretty damn nice tho!

"We've cut our costs A LOT"

You act like they weren't fearmongering about Mythos literally 2 months ago. Do you think everyone is stupid, we know exactly what you are doing. Please.

I liked the "modest but tangible improvement" too! There is a cynical take here but I think I'm gonna hold it in...

What do you mean? This is not just a new model, this is a new way of thinking.