Judo and Aikido founders were pals in the military. There is a handful of koshi nague throwing techniques that are identical in both schools, and are done without any of uke's momentum.

> Getting back to Aikido, one master is of the opinion it's not in MMA as its either ineffectual non damaging ritual OR it's high damage, crippling, lethal: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtibobLK56I

Both are true. Pulling off some of these moves in real world situations is absurdly hard -- much harder than other techniques you could be learning. But also the reason people throw themselves is because for some of these moves the alternative is the damage described. It's more complicated than that -- every traditional martial art has its issues.

I stress again that I'm not throwing any shade at it. It's one of those things that's poorly understood by outsiders and even most modern practitioners. There are Aikidokas out there who can absolutely whoop ass in a standup fight -- it's just that the level of nuance and understanding within the art form to get there is immense (comparatively). But then that's defeating the point. The whole point is about _not_ fighting. Spare everyone the damage. If that's your guiding philosophy and you're still intent on training, Aikido is for you.

Absolutely!

Also there's nothing fake about standing joint locks. Aikido just isn't the only martial art where you can learn them. Wing Chun, Hapkido, (Japanese) Jujutsu, etc...

But standing joint locks will only help you in dealing with belligerent drunks, not defending yourself against someone with real intent on your harm.

Aikido is beautiful and historically/culturally relevant.

Judo and Aikido founders were pals in the military. Those schools were all connected at the time and were complementary. What we see today is a kind of a "commercial struggle" between different schools and martial arts for $tudents. I practiced judo and BJJ as well throughout my life, and that wasn't an issue. I see that the ideal practice for anyone could be an MMA having the self-defense and the non-competitive healthy side of things. We don't see that mindset around.