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0 pointskilroy1231d ago0 comments

I think that will happen. I think several things can be true at the same time:

- AI Hype

- AI Psychosis

- AI keeps getting better and better until it can work around big AI slop code bases

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bluefirebrand1d ago

> AI keeps getting better and better until it can work around big AI slop code bases

The belief in this is a form of AI psychosis, I think.

Maybe in the future but certainly no evidence of this anytime soon

fooker1d ago

> Maybe in the future but certainly no evidence of this anytime soon

Here's some anecdotal evidence from me - I cleaned up multiple GPT 4.x era vibecoded projects recently with the latest claude model and integrated one of those into a fairly large open source codebase.

This is something AI completely failed at last year.

Maybe you should try something like this or listen to success stories before claiming 'certainly no evidence' in future?

whimsicalism1d ago

No evidence? Chatgpt came out 3 years ago. You basically just need to stick a ruler up on a curve

asveikau1d ago

I'm no expert, but the skeptic's opinion I've heard would be to ask:

What evidence is there that we're not at or close to a plateau of what LLMs are capable of? How do you know the growth rate from 2023 to present will continue into 2029? eg. Is it more training data? More GPUs? What if we're kind of reaching the limits of those things already?

asveikau1d ago

It's amusing to me that:

* A belief that AI will keep getting better, presented without evidence, does not yield a lot of skepticism around these parts.

* Your comment saying it is wrong to believe AI will keep getting better, also presented without evidence, is downvoted.

ashdksnndck1d ago

I have personally had success telling Claude that some AI-written system is too complicated and ask it to rewrite it in a more logical way. This sometimes results in thousands of lines of code being deleted. I give an instruction like that if I see certain red flags, eg:

1) same business logic implemented in two different places, with extra code to sync between them

2) fixing apparently simple bugs results in lots of new code being written

It’s a sign I need to at least temporarily dedicate more effort to overseeing work in that area.

I somewhat agree with the AI psychosis framing of the OP. It takes some taste and discipline to avoid letting things dissolve into complete slop.

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bluefirebrand1d ago

> AI keeps getting better and better until it can work around big AI slop code bases

The belief in this is a form of AI psychosis, I think.

Maybe in the future but certainly no evidence of this anytime soon

fooker1d ago

> Maybe in the future but certainly no evidence of this anytime soon

This is something AI completely failed at last year.

Maybe you should try something like this or listen to success stories before claiming 'certainly no evidence' in future?

whimsicalism1d ago

No evidence? Chatgpt came out 3 years ago. You basically just need to stick a ruler up on a curve

asveikau1d ago

I'm no expert, but the skeptic's opinion I've heard would be to ask:

asveikau1d ago

It's amusing to me that:

* A belief that AI will keep getting better, presented without evidence, does not yield a lot of skepticism around these parts.

* Your comment saying it is wrong to believe AI will keep getting better, also presented without evidence, is downvoted.

ashdksnndck1d ago

1) same business logic implemented in two different places, with extra code to sync between them

2) fixing apparently simple bugs results in lots of new code being written

It’s a sign I need to at least temporarily dedicate more effort to overseeing work in that area.

I somewhat agree with the AI psychosis framing of the OP. It takes some taste and discipline to avoid letting things dissolve into complete slop.

j / k navigate · click thread line to collapse