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0 pointsRoark661mo ago0 comments

Believe me, in some EU countries (like my country Poland) people are very sensitive for this kind of bullshit.

Last two times they tried to push other censorship/tracking laws (claiming as always "we have to, EU is making us") there were mass protests in every city and town.

In my own town of 5k people there were several hundred (500 people at least, probably more). And the previous govt backed down.

This topic seems to be coming back everytime certain countries (Denmark etc) hold the rotating EU presidency. Our current PM is certainly in the same EU clique that wants to push this so much, but it's an extremely unpopular position and he is already leading a weak minority coalition govt. It wouldn't take much to topple him, so he will not do anything like that (unless he is convicted people are distracted with some crisis, but that is where normal people come in. To keep watching what is being smuggled in).

I wonder why do voters in those countries that propose these laws tend to allow this to happen again and again.

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rvnx1mo ago· 3 in thread

It's because it's not about the opinion of voters, but about existing political powers that want to retain their power.

No matter what you (as population) say it will get implemented. If you don't, then they will put sanctions on Poland, withdraw financial partnerships, etc. Like with migrants, they are going to be sent there, even if Polish people vote against.

No matter if you are in favor or against, raising the topic will just make you socially be isolated or even legally punished in some places.

Sad for democracy and free speech.

EDIT: clarified about migrant policy and the decision of countries to choose or not

antiford20491mo ago

I think you are confusing democracy with anarchy. There is tons of free speech in Europe, and it is the most democratic of all countries that are alternative. UK is still very democratic country. The generation of politicians from zero rate era had gotten carried away on certain topics (defence, immigration) and now we have to deal with this. they also have undermined public trust by acting the way they did in covid, to an extent that any new pandemic is likely to be way worse just because no body will trust the government again for a long time.

But there is a problem with kids today having pretty easy access to all kinds of nasty shit on internet, and it isnt like it was in 90s and 00s. 10 year olds on social media is fucked. I dont really care for blocking internet on anything, yet it does appear that simple age verification is necessary for access to certain services.

most people are just super mad that they wont be able to watch porn or their favourite show thats on netflix or whatever. BUt thats not what the article was about. Read a little bit. Comparing EU to fucking Russia is insane here.

nxm1mo ago

Why is it insane? You get a police visit and fine for posting mean memes in Germany

leonidasrup1mo ago

Poland and other nations should be carefull with handling of imigration, as history shows.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1938_expulsion_of_Polish_Jews_...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emigration_of_Jews_from_Nazi_G...

petre1mo ago

Poland has a fresh memory on communism and censorship. Sadly the alternative to your current PM is PiS, who banned abortion, so basically christian conservatives with some fascist ideas, not very different than the ones currently running the US.

To the EU regulators: we don't need another Stasi, we already have Google and Meta to worry about, thank you.

Also, to regulate in my native language is just a nice way to say the f word, if this conversation is about porn.

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