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0 pointsthinkingtoilet3d ago0 comments

I 100% agree. However, I do think there is room for discussion for someone to ask is that a good thing? It is good if there is more of them if they only exist to be killed? I don't think things like this are black and white. If they only existed in the worst conditions in factory farms my answer would be no. If they can live a good life and be slaughtered humanely my answer would be yes. I think it's easy to dismiss comments like the one you responded to, but I would argue it's always good to think about these things.

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serf3d ago

it's hard to argue that decreased genetic diversity will help humans. Maybe we don't need hundreds of thousands of new exotic huge bovines to shit methane into the air all day every day, but it should be seen as fairly vital that we try to keep genetic diversity as high as we can in order to maximize future opportunities that may arise from research and development for the sake of humanity.

georgemcbay3d ago

> it's hard to argue that decreased genetic diversity will help humans.

Nobody was arguing about what is best for humans.

If the choice of existence for all pigs (randomly selected as an animal commonly used for food) was to live in factory farming conditions or for pigs to go entirely extinct, I'd rather they go extinct. Not for the benefit of humanity, but because never existing is a better outcome for those would-be pigs than living lives full of nothing but suffering.

monocasa3d ago

As someone who lives near one of the herds, this isn't a factory farming situation. They live pretty good lives on open space with a bit of population management that ends up with meat and hides that help offset the cost of managing the herd.

georgemcbay3d ago

That's good to know (genuinely).

I wasn't specifically talking about the bison here which is why I randomly selected some other animal to talk about and made the choice more binary than it is in the real world.

I was just making a point that what is best for humans is hardly the only criteria to use to make these sorts of decisions for some people (myself included).

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serf3d ago

georgemcbay3d ago

> it's hard to argue that decreased genetic diversity will help humans.

Nobody was arguing about what is best for humans.

monocasa3d ago

georgemcbay3d ago

That's good to know (genuinely).

I wasn't specifically talking about the bison here which is why I randomly selected some other animal to talk about and made the choice more binary than it is in the real world.

I was just making a point that what is best for humans is hardly the only criteria to use to make these sorts of decisions for some people (myself included).

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