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0 pointsJumpCrisscross7d ago0 comments

> for a moment of pleasure

The pleasure of being an Uber driver? Wouldn’t the better analogy be survival for most gig workers?

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AndrewKemendo7d ago

The majority of people have absolutely no foundational belief for their actions

it is simply how do I get more money sex property attention etc…

There are no monks door dashing

chimpanzee7d ago

Are you serious? So when I drive Uber to pay rent and feed myself, it is actually because I want sex and attention?

Might want to remove the "Wizard" from your bio, it'd be far more accurate.

AndrewKemendo7d ago

Yes that is correct

people want to get money so that they can have an “enjoyable life” very few indeed dedicate themselves to a virtue or an ethics above pleasure

“enjoyable life” as defined through pretty much the entirety of written human history consists of sex and play

So yes humanity is demonstrably composed of egoist consuming hedonists

JumpCrisscrossOP7d ago

> So yes humanity is demonstrably composed of egoist consuming hedonists

Okay. How does this advance the discussion? Obviously then that means opposing that means being anti-human.

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ninjagoo7d ago

> The majority of people have absolutely no foundational belief for their actions

The majority of people have absolutely no choice for their actions

FTFY

Especially given that for an increasing number of folks the alternative to doing what you're told is starvation (food insecurity), homelessness, and death (from lack of healthcare).

JumpCrisscrossOP7d ago

> majority of people have absolutely no choice for their actions

The poorest Americans remain among the richest people in the world and across human history. Many people don't have material choices. Almost every American does.

AndrewKemendo7d ago

If you can take even one action, you still have a choice

The fact of Harriet Tubman disproves your claim

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AndrewKemendo7d ago

The majority of people have absolutely no foundational belief for their actions

it is simply how do I get more money sex property attention etc…

There are no monks door dashing

chimpanzee7d ago

Are you serious? So when I drive Uber to pay rent and feed myself, it is actually because I want sex and attention?

Might want to remove the "Wizard" from your bio, it'd be far more accurate.

AndrewKemendo7d ago

Yes that is correct

people want to get money so that they can have an “enjoyable life” very few indeed dedicate themselves to a virtue or an ethics above pleasure

“enjoyable life” as defined through pretty much the entirety of written human history consists of sex and play

So yes humanity is demonstrably composed of egoist consuming hedonists

JumpCrisscrossOP7d ago

> So yes humanity is demonstrably composed of egoist consuming hedonists

Okay. How does this advance the discussion? Obviously then that means opposing that means being anti-human.

2 more replies

ninjagoo7d ago

> The majority of people have absolutely no foundational belief for their actions

The majority of people have absolutely no choice for their actions

FTFY

Especially given that for an increasing number of folks the alternative to doing what you're told is starvation (food insecurity), homelessness, and death (from lack of healthcare).

JumpCrisscrossOP7d ago

> majority of people have absolutely no choice for their actions

The poorest Americans remain among the richest people in the world and across human history. Many people don't have material choices. Almost every American does.

AndrewKemendo7d ago

If you can take even one action, you still have a choice

The fact of Harriet Tubman disproves your claim

j / k navigate · click thread line to collapse