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0 pointsXcelerate8d ago0 comments

I mean that trick works on humans too. Fake IDs, provide two types of documentation for a driver's license, passport, or buying a home, etc.

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maweaver8d ago

Yes but generally one cannot walk into a store and buy a fake id, then turn around and hand it to another cashier in the same store for a restricted purchase. Which I think would be the closer metaphor.

nhecker8d ago

>turn around and

Except that each of the parent's chat windows has zero context that the other window's request even exists, so from each window's point of view it's as if one person walks in to a store to buy a fake ID, and then somewhere else in a different universe on a different timeline a different person walks into a different store to hand that same fake ID over to a different cashier for the restricted purchase.

The LLMs are doing the best they can with absolutely zero context. Which has got to be a hard problem, IMO.

forthefuture8d ago

Except that's the point. It is the same store. It is two different cashiers. The second one doesn't know you got the ID from the first one, that's why it works. The point is that if a store like that existed, it would be stupid as fuck.

Also, at least in ChatGPT, it has access to every other session, so you're never working with zero context unless you create a new account (and even then they could have other fingerprinting, I just haven't tested it).

Sharlin8d ago

Or if you disable the context-sharing feature, of course.

godelski8d ago

180, not 360

Teever7d ago

My favourite example of bureaucracy that I've ever personally experienced and that I consider to be a hole in one is when I had to show my ID to pick up my passport from the office. I paused for a second and asked the lady what was up with that and if I can now use my passport if I got back in the line for something else without using my ID and she said yes.

sunnybeetroot6d ago

Why is this weird? You have to show ID that matches the passport and then in the future you can use a passport as your ID, makes sense.

padjo8d ago

Can we just stop the "well actually its kinda like how humans work" talk when discussing AI failures? It contributes nothing novel to the discussion.

salad-tycoon7d ago

Sometimes it reveals hidden biases within ourselves/society as a whole. Like, do I give gays preferential treatment in a way to avoid seeming discriminatory?

It does feel a bit Supra-therapeutic at times tho, agreed but maybe it’s one small novel contribution.

My bigger question is: WHY can’t we stop the human vs AI comparisons?

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