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0 pointsabdullahkhalids10d ago0 comments

CSAM exists on social media because they are so large that it's not possible to moderate them effectively. To me this is a a no-go. If a business is so large that it cannot respect laws, it needs to be shut down.

The correct way to organize social media is in federated way. Each server only holds on average a few hundred or few thousand people. Server moderators should be legally responsible for content on their server. CSAM on social media will be 100x suppressed because banning people is way easier on small servers.

Not many moderators will have to look at CSAM because the structure of the system makes is unappealing to even try sharing CSAM, knowing you will be immediately blocked.

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haritha-j10d ago

Also, if you've gone from zero to one of the biggest coroporations in the country, and have billions to throw at the 'metaverse', I find it hard to believe that removing CSAM is where you struggle.

2ndorderthought10d ago

Yep. If you cannot both safely and legally provide the thing you are selling you are no longer a legitimate company you are a criminal enterprise profiting off of exploitation.

esyir10d ago

If car manufacturers cannot bring car related deaths to zero, they too should no longer be legitimate companies.

2ndorderthought10d ago

Do car companies sell cars without air bags, or seat belts? What about cars that haven't been crash tested? What happens to them if they don't do this do you think?

Would you drive a car optimized for profit that didn't have those safety features? How about on a highway? Daily?

lokar10d ago

A better comparison would be that if a car company can’t meet preexisting crash/safety standards, they need to shut down.

These are pretty clear laws established by a democratic government with a pretty good record for rule of law.

_DeadFred_10d ago

When FORD dngaf with the Pinto and Corsair( like tech companies do not gaf), they deservedly got this same level of contempt/demand for oversite. A dude named Ralph Nader went on a huge crusade about it. And they got a ton more oversite, safety requirements, etc put on them.

So yes, yes, let's do like we did with cars.

muglug10d ago

> Banning people is way easier on small servers

Big “citation needed” here. My bet is that Meta have far better moderation systems than any other social media company on the planet.

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haritha-j10d ago

Also, if you've gone from zero to one of the biggest coroporations in the country, and have billions to throw at the 'metaverse', I find it hard to believe that removing CSAM is where you struggle.

2ndorderthought10d ago

Yep. If you cannot both safely and legally provide the thing you are selling you are no longer a legitimate company you are a criminal enterprise profiting off of exploitation.

esyir10d ago

If car manufacturers cannot bring car related deaths to zero, they too should no longer be legitimate companies.

2ndorderthought10d ago

Do car companies sell cars without air bags, or seat belts? What about cars that haven't been crash tested? What happens to them if they don't do this do you think?

Would you drive a car optimized for profit that didn't have those safety features? How about on a highway? Daily?

lokar10d ago

A better comparison would be that if a car company can’t meet preexisting crash/safety standards, they need to shut down.

These are pretty clear laws established by a democratic government with a pretty good record for rule of law.

_DeadFred_10d ago

So yes, yes, let's do like we did with cars.

muglug10d ago

> Banning people is way easier on small servers

Big “citation needed” here. My bet is that Meta have far better moderation systems than any other social media company on the planet.

j / k navigate · click thread line to collapse