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0 pointsjoe_mamba13d ago0 comments

>Because companies here actively want to avoid breaking the law

Haha, yeah sure. What other fairy tales you gonna tells us next?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen_emissions_scandal

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siemens#2005_and_continuing:_w...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wirecard_scandal

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parmalat_bankruptcy_timeline

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airbus#Bribery_allegations

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CumEx-Files

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lafarge_scandal

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pfizergate

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ING_Group#Money_laundering_cas...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolls-Royce_Holdings#Corruptio...

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Arodex13d ago

Thank you for your brilliant demonstration of survivorship bias.

How many people were punished for Enron? For the subprime crisis? Etc.

In the US, you just give a little money for the president's ballroom and you are pardoned. Or you settle out of court because your justice system is crap.

selectodude13d ago

The CEO of Enron was convicted and died two months before sentencing and the COO got 12 years.

Interestingly the chief accountant of Enron ended up getting a job in Europe after he got out of prison.

joe_mambaOP13d ago

>Interestingly the chief accountant of Enron ended up getting a job in Europe after he got out of prison.

But, but ..Europeans here said they don't tolerate crooks.

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watwut13d ago

Yes, European companies break the law too. However, the comment this was about literally mocked the companies that are actively trying to follow the law.

So yes, such companies exist and plenty of people see their existence as a good thing rather then something to mock.

jgwil213d ago

That comment mocked German customers; it didn't mention companies at all.

Mashimo13d ago

I read it like the customers where German based companies.

rat998813d ago

Obviously B2B given the context

mothballed13d ago

Law has no virtue in and of itself.

21asdffdsa1213d ago

It also ultimately a expression of might makes right (sad as this is) and as the current culture supports a decline of western might, it also undoes the law - first international, than domestic. We simply decided to burden our might with these restriction fictions, others feel not at all compelled to follow.

I expect to see further selling out of these laws, as the economic prosperity declines. I can perfectly see german law limiting german companies from developing and selling AI products, while at the same time allowing us companies for a "pay our retires and pension-plans" kickback.

esafak13d ago

In Europe, those are scandals. In the US, it's another Tuesday.

joe_mambaOP13d ago

If we keep moving the goalposts you can make any argument

Arodex13d ago

What goalposts? Your sitting president, himself a conman is pardoning fraudsters left and right while he and his family enrich themselves with public money and extortion.

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pyrale13d ago

Let me rephrase this: companies want to avoid breaking the law unknowingly, because their US providers are going to break the law without notice, willingly or unwillingly.

Plenty of corporations are willing to break the rules, but never for free.

guywithahat13d ago

> because their US providers are going to break the law without notice, willingly or unwillingly

This is a weird hill to die on because it's not true. I can't find anything to support your world view and if anything evidence points to the contrary. Europe has a deliberately more complex legal framework, usually in the hopes of keeping out foreign competition (although it's dubious whether or not that actually works).

pyrale13d ago

> I can't find anything to support your world view

Just look at US laws pertaining to data that goes through US companies.

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Arodex13d ago

Thank you for your brilliant demonstration of survivorship bias.

How many people were punished for Enron? For the subprime crisis? Etc.

In the US, you just give a little money for the president's ballroom and you are pardoned. Or you settle out of court because your justice system is crap.

selectodude13d ago

The CEO of Enron was convicted and died two months before sentencing and the COO got 12 years.

Interestingly the chief accountant of Enron ended up getting a job in Europe after he got out of prison.

joe_mambaOP13d ago

>Interestingly the chief accountant of Enron ended up getting a job in Europe after he got out of prison.

But, but ..Europeans here said they don't tolerate crooks.

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watwut13d ago

Yes, European companies break the law too. However, the comment this was about literally mocked the companies that are actively trying to follow the law.

So yes, such companies exist and plenty of people see their existence as a good thing rather then something to mock.

jgwil213d ago

That comment mocked German customers; it didn't mention companies at all.

Mashimo13d ago

I read it like the customers where German based companies.

rat998813d ago

Obviously B2B given the context

mothballed13d ago

Law has no virtue in and of itself.

21asdffdsa1213d ago

esafak13d ago

In Europe, those are scandals. In the US, it's another Tuesday.

joe_mambaOP13d ago

If we keep moving the goalposts you can make any argument

Arodex13d ago

What goalposts? Your sitting president, himself a conman is pardoning fraudsters left and right while he and his family enrich themselves with public money and extortion.

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pyrale13d ago

Let me rephrase this: companies want to avoid breaking the law unknowingly, because their US providers are going to break the law without notice, willingly or unwillingly.

Plenty of corporations are willing to break the rules, but never for free.

guywithahat13d ago

> because their US providers are going to break the law without notice, willingly or unwillingly

pyrale13d ago

> I can't find anything to support your world view

Just look at US laws pertaining to data that goes through US companies.

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