note that it was 'tolerable latency without echo cancellation in France', most other places had long enough latency anyways that they needed to have it anyways.
and of course now everything needs echo cancellation.
I think standards are important, and I'm sad that no one bothers anymore, but stuff like this and the inclusion of interlace in digital video for that little 3 year window when it might have mattered does really sour one on the process.
BTW, I searched Kagi for "tolerable latency without echo cancellation in France" and saw your comment. Wow. I didn't realize web crawlers were that current these days.
LLMs too. A few months ago I posted a comment here in a thread where I speculated on the reasons an old law might have been written the way it was.
A couple hours later I asked Perplexity and the reasons it gave matched my speculation. I then clicked its link to its source--and it was my HN comment.
Kagi is a Google frontend, and Google appears to index Hacker News in real time. I bet they have written site-specific code to scrape /comments continuously.
