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0 pointshahainternet13y ago0 comments

Forgive me if this is pointless cynicism but fountain of creative ideas?

* A music player

* A phone

* A portable computer

Not exactly the most innovative product categories?

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jfoutz13y ago· 2 in thread

Apple 2? Macintosh? Powerbook? Newton?

Didn't that laser printer and the Apple software that became Adobe pretty much create "desktop publishing"?

I've heard a few people talk about hypercard being neat at the time.

Yeah, they did some stuff lately, whatever. But you really have no appreciation for how cool woz's disk drive was? That was pretty amazing.

general_failure13y ago

Dude, that was Apple the company and not Steve jobs doing.

What's wrong with everyone? Steve jobs didn't come up with every darn idea and implemente every darn thing.

You know what John Chambers is awesome. He invented routers, switches, hubs, IP phones, Conferencing systems, Telco switches, things that power practically 50% of the internet all by himself.

jfoutz13y ago

You know what, you're right. The newton was Gassée, and jobs probably did nothing with the laser printer.

However, i think stuff like this: http://www.folklore.org/StoryView.py?project=Macintosh&s... indicates Jobs pushed good people to do their best work. The mac wouldn't be the mac without jobs. Neither would the Next cube. Maybe John Chambers is just as involved with every product Cisco makes, but a terrible self promoter.

philwelch13y ago· 1 in thread

Do you remember what phones were like six years ago?

sesqu13y ago

Yes; just like they are now, just with bigger batteries and smaller screens.

aik13y ago

A horse [and buggy] and a car are in the same product category as well.

Point: Everything can be generalized to the point of it seeming mundane.

hazov13y ago

Execution and presentation matters, a lot, if Jobs left a lesson to the world that was it.

pycassa13y ago

wow.

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