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0 pointsstavros27d ago0 comments

This should already be illegal under the DMA. I don't know how Google is planning to get out of it.

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There hasn't been so much as a finger lifted against antitrust behavior since 2000. They feel as though they're invincible at this point.

stavrosOP27d ago

Apple got a lot of flak for their shenanigans, but here's hoping the EU puts the hammer down on both of them.

brookst27d ago

This is false and it weakens your position.

https://www.justice.gov/atr/case/us-and-plaintiff-states-v-g...

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/department-justice-prevails-l...

https://www.justice.gov/atr/case/us-and-plaintiff-states-v-a...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antitrust_cases_against_Google...

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/03/19/eu-orders-apple-to-open-up-a...

…and there are many more.

You can say those aren’t enough, but it is 100% fallacious to say there has been zero antitrust actions against Apple and Google since 2000.

pasquinelli27d ago

can you explain how someone being incorrect about something weakens their position? i assume the position in question is that their should be more trust busting. "there have been these antitrust actions" isn't actually a counter argument to "there should be more antitrust actions", so it doesn't weaken the position, unless i'm not understanding what you mean by that.

you know what my favorite fallacy is? the fallacy fallacy, the mistaken assumption that by showing an argument is invalid you've shown its conclusion is false.

eru27d ago

If someone says 'the level of X is 0, and the appropriate level should be higher than it currently is', and if it turns out that the current level of X is higher than the claimed 0, that does indeed raise doubts about their position.

goodmythical27d ago

Because the argument wasn't "there should be more" but was in fact "there have been none"?

It's pretty easy to weaken such a strong position if you can provide not just one but multiple pieces of evidence to the contrary.

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wilkommen26d ago

None of these cases destroyed any of the defendants' monopoly status, so while there have been some "actions", there certainly haven't been any effective ones.

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