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0 pointscedws29d ago0 comments

There’s the argument that Anthropic has built Claude Code to use the models efficiently, which the subscription pricing is based on.

Maybe there’s some truth to that, but then why haven’t OpenAI made the same move? I believe the main reason is platform control. Anthropic can’t survive as a pipeline for tokens, they need to build and control a platform, which means aggressively locking out everybody else building a platform.

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Zetaphor29d ago

Alternatively products like openclaw have an outsized impact on Anthropic's infrastructure for essentially no benefit to them. Especially when you're taking advantage of the $200 plan.

OpenAI has never shyed away from burning mountains of cash to try and capture a little more market share. They paid a billion dollars for a vibe coded mess just for the opportunity to associate themselves with the hype.

plusplusungood29d ago

> Taking advantage of the $200 plan.

No, I'm paying $200 a month for a premium product that I expect premium service for. It's the single most expensive IT expense I have. Taking advantage my foot.

59nadir29d ago

Can you imagine paying the actual cost of it, or a subscription cost that at least ballpark matched it? I don't think I have a single friend or acquaintance who realistically would.

infecto29d ago

You are simply a bit too entitled. It's not a premium product and honestly not that expensive in my opinion either (though that is going to depend on your location).

You are more than able to pay for API rates.

siva729d ago

You may want to learn the difference between someone being able to pay API rates and someone willing to pay API rates. I'm sure many people on HN are able to pay API rates and almost all of them aren't willing to pay API rates. The providers know this hence why subscriptions exist. API is almost solely used by companies as almost no private person would be willing to pay that.

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Dylan1680729d ago

A normal person pays $0-10 for an AI plan, maybe double that for a business.

$200 is premium.

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charcircuit29d ago

It's not a premium product. It's just expensive.

qeternity29d ago

> They paid a billion dollars for a vibe coded mess just for the opportunity to associate themselves with the hype.

Lol no they didn't. It wasn't even an acquihire. They just hired Peter.

Maybe they are paying him incredibly well, but not a billion dollars well.

snovv_crash29d ago

I think it's a training data thing. They can only gather valid training data from real human interactions, so they don't want to subsidize tokens for purely automated interactions.

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Zetaphor29d ago

Alternatively products like openclaw have an outsized impact on Anthropic's infrastructure for essentially no benefit to them. Especially when you're taking advantage of the $200 plan.

plusplusungood29d ago

> Taking advantage of the $200 plan.

No, I'm paying $200 a month for a premium product that I expect premium service for. It's the single most expensive IT expense I have. Taking advantage my foot.

59nadir29d ago

Can you imagine paying the actual cost of it, or a subscription cost that at least ballpark matched it? I don't think I have a single friend or acquaintance who realistically would.

infecto29d ago

You are simply a bit too entitled. It's not a premium product and honestly not that expensive in my opinion either (though that is going to depend on your location).

You are more than able to pay for API rates.

siva729d ago

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Dylan1680729d ago

A normal person pays $0-10 for an AI plan, maybe double that for a business.

$200 is premium.

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charcircuit29d ago

It's not a premium product. It's just expensive.

qeternity29d ago

> They paid a billion dollars for a vibe coded mess just for the opportunity to associate themselves with the hype.

Lol no they didn't. It wasn't even an acquihire. They just hired Peter.

Maybe they are paying him incredibly well, but not a billion dollars well.

snovv_crash29d ago

I think it's a training data thing. They can only gather valid training data from real human interactions, so they don't want to subsidize tokens for purely automated interactions.

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