There are episodes yet to be broadcast, but still ... :'-(
"He's dead, Jim" and the remains are completely desiccated.
Everyone hates Picard and for good reason as it squandered so much potential, but at least it was trying something new. They even made the Borg scary again (until they all got shoved out of an airlock so Seven of Nine could crash the cube. Women drivers amirite?)
I think it's time that Trek and Star Wars get mothballed for a generation or two, then maybe reboot them like Doctor Who, when there aren't enough original fans around to complain about "getting it wrong."
I'd like to see a version of Trek that stays within the style of TOS. Maybe the Federation exists but it's a minor alliance insignificant to the rest of the galaxy and humans are an upstart power contending with vast and ancient alien empires. Technology is advanced but limited and comprehensible. No infinite free energy, no transporter clones, no time travel, no Moriarty. No Q! Humans are very much on the bottom of the galactic food chain. Do what Enterprise should have done but was never brave enough to do.
But more so (and I know people will disagree with me on this) I want something new, something other than yet another flagship and more planets of the week. They could have made an entire series set inside the Dyson sphere, for instance. How cool would that be? Or a series about settling a colony near the neutral zone, or archaeologists tracking down powerful alien artifacts. Or something about the Fenris Rangers, and society outside of the Federation.
These franchises need new ideas and new blood, and it's time we moved on to other things.
Good. Let it die. It's hard for me to say where exactly Star Trek went off the rails but everything of recent has been complete trash in my opinion as a moderate Star Trek fan. Some say everything from the Kelvin timeline but I did enjoy Picard S1/S3 despite the inconsistencies. Picard season 2 should not have existed at all. Strange New Worlds is not Star Trek. The captain is basically some random masculine man that is disrespected through the entire show. He exhibits no characteristics of a Starfleet captain beyond the assign rank and uniform. Starfleet Academy is some woke fever dream that never should have been funded, again in my opinion. I believe that iteration is a mockery of the Star Trek franchise.
Current Earth politics do not belong in shows that are supposed to provide people escapism and entertainment. Sell the franchise to people that can respect the franchise, the fan base, that know the lore and that can take it seriously. These are just my opinions for whatever that is worth.
You’re really displaying some ignorance here. Star Trek has always has a political slant.
The basic premise is about a bunch of people living in a progressive sci-fi utopia with UBI. The show is constantly preaching unity and openness. It is explicitly anti-Fascist in many episodes.
It has a multiracial cast with a flamboyant “closeted” gay actor.
And most importantly, it famously had the first interracial kiss on television. The show was banned (or, more minorly, the specific episode was banned) in several places in the South because of that.
No I am not. They had politics, yes. But not anywhere to the point to breaking the audience out of escapism and mapping their politics to the politics of the time. They kept it realistic enough people could associate with it but not to the point of implementing current politics and identity politics.
The basic premise is about a bunch of people living in a progressive sci-fi utopia with UBI.
Yes. And you do realize wars and the level of dystopian hell they had to go through to reach that point right? It's not like they just decided to implement UBI. Over 600 million people died before that was realized and I am leaving out a tremendous amount of pain and suffering. It was a very long period before they entered into a post-scarcity era and even then money was still used and still a problem within some cultures that were cannon.
And most importantly, it famously had the first interracial kiss on television.
Again, I never said anything about race or gender. Woke as it is today covers many other facets including but not limited to "The Patriarchy" which they are trying to depose in Starfleet meaning they never actually watched or understood the show before they bought it.
I never said that you did. But you did propose, and you continue to double down on, the idea that the original Star Trek was not very political.
> They had politics, yes. But not anywhere to the point to breaking the audience out of escapism and mapping their politics to the politics of the time.
Yes, the interracial kiss was VERY MUCH the politics of the time. That's why it was the FIRST interracial kiss on network television, nearly 40 years after TV networks came about. That's why it was protested/banned and the episode not shown in Southern markets.
Can you give any examples of network TV that were more political than Trek?
This is entirely in keeping with the Star Trek tradition. It had a multiracial cast and female officers in 1966, when that was quite unusual in a TV show.
For me it is about the dynamics between characters and the disrespect for the uniform, disrespect for Starfleet in some odd type of defiance of perceived patriarchy. The recent shows are not Star Trek. They are trying to retcon Starfleet decorum, Starfleet regulation and that barely even begins to touch on the issues they are introducing. The writers are trying to suggest a military could operate with everyone just being cool buds a situation that would quickly devolve into utter chaos. That is not science fiction but rather fantasy fiction. The "Captain" in Academy flagrantly disrespects their own command position so hard it's just a slap in the face to the audience and the franchise. Being true to Star Trek word would have gotten back to command and she would have been removed, decommissioned and memories of Star Fleet secrets wiped from her mind a capability that both the Federation and the Romulans possessed.
True. And yet it was not woke.
