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0 pointsdijit1mo ago0 comments

$100/m for SaaS is very steep.

For an entire productivity suite including mail, meetings and terabytes of backed up redundant storage with nearly no bandwidth limitations it's like $35/m for even the most expensive option.

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tao_oat1mo ago

Those products have very low COGS in comparison to this.

bredren1mo ago

Claude Code and Codex are not SaaS products in the traditional sense.

stingraycharles1mo ago

Comparing state of the art LLMs with Office365 / Gsuite is like comparing renting a datacenter vs an airbnb. Entirely different things.

Compare it to hosting models locally, that would be more apt. Or renting GPUs from cloud vendors.

dijitOP1mo ago

It’s a SaaS, and the most expensive SaaS available.

If you’re saying an LLM provides more value than the office productivity suites , mail platforms and meeting platforms which run essentially the planet: then I am afraid, you have drunk the kool-aid.

If you’re evaluating software licenses you have to weigh the price to value, there can be value to these LLMs but its not 3x the productivity of Mail+Spreadsheets+Live Meetings+presentations+wordprocessing+filesharing.

Its just not.

stingraycharles1mo ago

If you really think the value add by LLMs is comparable to email and calendar, I don’t understand why you don’t understand my point that you’re not the customer Anthropic cares about.

dijitOP1mo ago

Your point is stupid.

The cost of offering a service and the cost of buying a service are correlated but not the customers problem.

If you are the most expensive SaaS on a docket sheet and you’re also the least reliable you had better be delivering some serious value in the times you’re up otherwise customers won’t depend on you and you’ll be the first one out.

Nobody wants to pay premium prices for things they can’t depend on. If you cant understand that then you need to stop offloading critical thinking to your AI tools because your mind needs the exercise.

baq1mo ago

you could arguably ditch the productivity suite and a few other 'essential' subscriptions to make room for this one, except the price point will get enshittified to hell in the coming months and years.

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tao_oat1mo ago

Those products have very low COGS in comparison to this.

bredren1mo ago

Claude Code and Codex are not SaaS products in the traditional sense.

stingraycharles1mo ago

Comparing state of the art LLMs with Office365 / Gsuite is like comparing renting a datacenter vs an airbnb. Entirely different things.

Compare it to hosting models locally, that would be more apt. Or renting GPUs from cloud vendors.

dijitOP1mo ago

It’s a SaaS, and the most expensive SaaS available.

Its just not.

stingraycharles1mo ago

If you really think the value add by LLMs is comparable to email and calendar, I don’t understand why you don’t understand my point that you’re not the customer Anthropic cares about.

dijitOP1mo ago

Your point is stupid.

The cost of offering a service and the cost of buying a service are correlated but not the customers problem.

baq1mo ago

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