I agree that the original cancellation discussion was bad. I don't agree that these threads reflect the same disfunction. They're a new effort (from me). No one was working on it previously because browsers have said that they were unwilling to add any other form of cancellation given that AbortSignal already exists, so there was never a chance to add a separate CancelToken once it shipped. The work to be done now is basically administrative: moving a subset from the WHATWG spec to TC39. This has ~no relevance to user's lives unless they're using a JS runtime which does not implement the WinterTC spec, which is approximately no one. The delay has nothing to do with SES (which has no bearing on this), and Governors are a _use case_ which motivates bringing it into the language, not a thing with which it needs to be reconciled.