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0 pointsSomeone12342mo ago0 comments

Codex just changed the way they calculate usage with a massive negative impact.

Before a Subscription was the cheapest way to gain Codex usage, but now they've essentially having API and Subscription pricing match (e.g. $200 sub = $200 in API Codex usage).

The only value of a subscription now is that you get the web version of ChatGPT "free." In terms of raw Codex usage, you could just as easily buy API usage.

edit: This is currently rolled out for Enterprise, but is coming to Pro/Plus soon. The people below saying "I haven't had this issue" haven't yet*.

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embedding-shape2mo ago· 3 in thread

> e.g. $200 sub = $200 in API Codex usage [...] In terms of raw Codex usage, you could just as easily buy API usage.

I don't think it's made out like that, I'm on the ChatGPT Pro plan for personal usage, and for a client I'm using the OpenAI API, both almost only using GPT 5.4 xhigh, done pretty much 50/50 work on client/personal projects, and clients API usage is up to 400 USD right now after a week of work, and ChatGPT Pro limit has 61% left, resets tomorrow.

Still seems to me you'd get a heck more out of the subscription than API credits.

Archit3ch2mo ago

This. ChatGPT Pro personal at $20/month and using GPT 5.4 xhigh is the best deal currently. I don't know if they are actually losing money or betting on people staying well under limits. Clearly they charge extra to businesses on the API plans to make up for it.

In the future, open models and cheaper inference could cover the loss-leading strategies we see today.

nickthegreek2mo ago

ChatGPT Personal Pro plan hasnt had the change yet. It is rolling out to Enterprise users first.

Someone1234OP2mo ago

Right, because you're on the old and not new structure.

They just rolled it out for new subscribers and existing ones will be getting it in the "coming weeks." Enterprise already got hit with this from my understanding.

postalcoder2mo ago· 1 in thread

This is not true. The change applies to the credits, ie the incremental usage that exceeds your subscription limits.

Someone1234OP2mo ago

OpenAI's own help page suggests otherwise.

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