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0 pointslkey2mo ago0 comments

I'll speak from my position as a former wikipedian.

You don't know anything. Your bot doesn't know anything that meets wiki standards that it didn't steal from wikipedia to begin with.

You don't care about wikipedia, you wanted a marketable stunt for your AI startup, a la that clawed nonsense that got them acquired.

You pissed in the public fountain, and people are mad at you. This shouldn't be a shock, and your intent doesn't matter one iota.

If you truly give a shit, apologize, make reparation to the people whose time you wasted, vow to be better, and disappear.

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stronglikedan2mo ago· 2 in thread

that's a lot of assumptions. says more about you than the person in question, really.

lkeyOP2mo ago

Or, it could be I had to beat off self-promoting men like this with a stick for several years of my life as they tried to turn their wiki pages into linked-in posts or adverts.

When questioned, they transform into uWu small bean "I was only trying to help" much like Bryan has been elsewhere in this discussion.

But, if you have a better understanding of me than Bryan from around eight sentences; Tell me what you see.

Kim_Bruning2mo ago

Getting close to HN rules there. I've searched through user contribs for User:Bryanjj and User:TomWikiAssist and can't find vios of WP:COI or WP:PROMO, at least not so quickly. The list of edits isn't too long. I'm not going to question your instincts, but at very least they don't appear to have gotten far enough to do edits of that kind afaict, ymmv.

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Kim_Bruning2mo ago

> You don't know anything. Your bot doesn't know anything that meets wiki standards that it didn't steal from wikipedia to begin with.

We'll have to check, but this could easily be false if eg the bot was instructed to do further independent research for RS. [1]

> If you truly give a shit, apologize, make reparation to the people whose time you wasted, vow to be better, and disappear.

You need to check your sources before you make recommendations. Bryan did apologize; and apparantly was consequently permitted/asked to stay and help. [2]

Don't worry, WP:VP did rake him over SOME coals [3]

I'll take any sourced corrections, ofc.

(And I do agree that Bryan's initial actions were... ill-advised)

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47667482

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Agent_policy

[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(WMF)#c... (above and below that point for discussion)

bryan02mo ago

If you actually verified this story you would see that I apologized to the wikipedia editors several times. Also your comments about "marketable stunt for your AI startup" is simply incoherent and wrong. This was a personal side project, nothing more, nothing less.

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stronglikedan2mo ago· 2 in thread

that's a lot of assumptions. says more about you than the person in question, really.

lkeyOP2mo ago

Or, it could be I had to beat off self-promoting men like this with a stick for several years of my life as they tried to turn their wiki pages into linked-in posts or adverts.

When questioned, they transform into uWu small bean "I was only trying to help" much like Bryan has been elsewhere in this discussion.

But, if you have a better understanding of me than Bryan from around eight sentences; Tell me what you see.

Kim_Bruning2mo ago

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Kim_Bruning2mo ago

> You don't know anything. Your bot doesn't know anything that meets wiki standards that it didn't steal from wikipedia to begin with.

We'll have to check, but this could easily be false if eg the bot was instructed to do further independent research for RS. [1]

> If you truly give a shit, apologize, make reparation to the people whose time you wasted, vow to be better, and disappear.

You need to check your sources before you make recommendations. Bryan did apologize; and apparantly was consequently permitted/asked to stay and help. [2]

Don't worry, WP:VP did rake him over SOME coals [3]

I'll take any sourced corrections, ofc.

(And I do agree that Bryan's initial actions were... ill-advised)

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47667482

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Agent_policy

[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(WMF)#c... (above and below that point for discussion)

bryan02mo ago

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