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0 pointstalmand13y ago0 comments

No use for CSS? CSS not powerful enough to express styling? Huh?

You want to get rid of CSS for styling and replace it with something else for styling? Wha?

The processors you speak of output CSS. They do nothing that cannot already be done with CSS, they just make it easier. Plus, when using javascript to apply styles you are still using CSS, you are just applying it in a different way.

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lmm13y ago· 2 in thread

>The processors you speak of output CSS. They do nothing that cannot already be done with CSS, they just make it easier.

And CSS does nothing that can't be done with inline styling (well, that's probably not true now, but it was once and could be made so again), it just makes it easier.

If your site's styling is being produced by some program which knows things like "the nav bar is 20% blue" and "all otherwise unstyled text boxes have a grey background", there's no reason that program couldn't put the styles in the html directly.

talmandOP13y ago

Sure, an application that inserts into HTML can handle what you speak of, but that doesn't address my questions about the statement of CSS being unsuitable for the task of styles.

Sorry, but inline styling is still CSS. I know that CSS standing for "cascading style sheets" may cause confusion but all styling for an HTML document is done with CSS. Even the default styles a browser uses on an otherwise "unstyled" document is based on CSS. You can insert styles directly into an HTML element with Javascript and you are still using CSS.

But if you start using such an application to insert your CSS directly into HTML then I'm willing to bet you are due for a headache in the future. There are several reasons why inserting CSS inline is a bad idea. First, you are seriously duplicating your code since you have no class structure to work with. Second, you've just given up pseudo classes. Third, good luck maintaining that code, especially if you eventually stop using the program that created this code in the first place. I fail to see how that's easier.

"all otherwise unstyled text boxes have a grey background" - those "unstyled" text boxes are now "styled", you seem to be repeating the statement that prompted my response in that somehow CSS is not the answer but then you provide an example that uses CSS.

lmm13y ago

>Sorry, but inline styling is still CSS. I know that CSS standing for "cascading style sheets" may cause confusion but all styling for an HTML document is done with CSS. Even the default styles a browser uses on an otherwise "unstyled" document is based on CSS. You can insert styles directly into an HTML element with Javascript and you are still using CSS.

Matter of definitions. I'm advocating styling one's page inline and/or via javascript, without using external stylesheets. (Well, I'd really advocate styling using attributes a la html3, but it's too late for that now). Call that what you will.

>First, you are seriously duplicating your code since you have no class structure to work with. Second, you've just given up pseudo classes. Third, good luck maintaining that code, especially if you eventually stop using the program that created this code in the first place. I fail to see how that's easier.

I already have a class structure, because my HTML is being generated by a program. The actual HTML is like an assembly language, not meant for manual reading or editing.

Yes, I've given up pseudo classes. I don't think I'll miss them.

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