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0 pointsrvnx1mo ago0 comments

I wouldn't trust the European Union to be the one that will challenge that German mobilization register at all.

COVID-19 has proven that if anything, the European Union tends to spread national initiatives among other countries (and Germany is often a leader in EU).

In this specific case, the EU is more likely to be the type of organization that would think about how to create a unified permit

-> as they did with the EU Digital COVID certificate; some sort of "I am in the register of mobilization" / "have a temporary travel authorization".

So, EU might be an enemy that pretends to be your friend there.

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lrasinen1mo ago

Humbug. Defence policy, especially how the EU member states choose to organize their military forces, is very much in the hands of the individual countries. A majority of the member states don't even have conscription anymore.

Yes, there is the common security and defence policy, and the Article 42 of Lisbon and all that, but it all still relies on national systems.

mytailorisrich1mo ago

That's interesting because on the face of it this none of the EU's business... but also typical of the EU and EU governments to expand what is thr EU's business little by little.

QuantumNomad_1mo ago

The whole existence of the EU has its background in the end of WWII.

> 18 April 1951 – European Coal and Steel Community

> Based on the Schuman plan, six countries sign a treaty to run their coal and steel industries under a common management. In this way, no single country can make the weapons of war to turn against others, as in the past. The six are Germany, France, Italy, the Netherlands, Belgium and Luxembourg. The European Coal and Steel Community comes into being in 1952.

https://european-union.europa.eu/principles-countries-histor...

Why wouldn’t a unified permit to prove you registered for mobilization be relevant to what the EU is for?

mytailorisrich1mo ago

Absolutely not. What you quote is beside the point and irrelevant.

Defence and the military is a sovereign matter that has nothing to do with the EU... except we are seeing that this is changing without democratic national mandates.

QuantumNomad_1mo ago

How can it be irrelevant when the quoted text is from a website about the EU, written by the EU itself?

This is the EU describing its own history and beginnings.

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tokai1mo ago

Don't post made up lies here.

rvnxOP1mo ago

https://defence-industry-space.ec.europa.eu/eu-defence-indus...

There is a new military Schengen project to make troops and unified military documentation across whole EU.

Obviously there will need to be a registry of personnel there, so these people can be prevented to leave.

On the side you have SIS Schengen, where you can (already) have an active arrest warrant for desertion.

Nothing indicates that European Union is going to fight against such registries. It's even the opposite.

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lrasinen1mo ago

Yes, there is the common security and defence policy, and the Article 42 of Lisbon and all that, but it all still relies on national systems.

mytailorisrich1mo ago

That's interesting because on the face of it this none of the EU's business... but also typical of the EU and EU governments to expand what is thr EU's business little by little.

QuantumNomad_1mo ago

The whole existence of the EU has its background in the end of WWII.

> 18 April 1951 – European Coal and Steel Community

https://european-union.europa.eu/principles-countries-histor...

Why wouldn’t a unified permit to prove you registered for mobilization be relevant to what the EU is for?

mytailorisrich1mo ago

Absolutely not. What you quote is beside the point and irrelevant.

Defence and the military is a sovereign matter that has nothing to do with the EU... except we are seeing that this is changing without democratic national mandates.

QuantumNomad_1mo ago

How can it be irrelevant when the quoted text is from a website about the EU, written by the EU itself?

This is the EU describing its own history and beginnings.

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tokai1mo ago

Don't post made up lies here.

rvnxOP1mo ago

https://defence-industry-space.ec.europa.eu/eu-defence-indus...

There is a new military Schengen project to make troops and unified military documentation across whole EU.

Obviously there will need to be a registry of personnel there, so these people can be prevented to leave.

On the side you have SIS Schengen, where you can (already) have an active arrest warrant for desertion.

Nothing indicates that European Union is going to fight against such registries. It's even the opposite.

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