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0 pointsncr1001mo ago0 comments

Creepy. Looks like they rolled it back: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47573233

Collection of my thoughts which don't really get to a point:

- Microsoft owns GitHub, where Raycast is being mentioned thousands of times by their tooling.

- Microsoft is a modern popularizer of the infamous phrase, embrace extend extinguish. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend,_and_extinguis...

- Microsoft has a history of monopoly behavior https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Microsoft_Cor....

- From an empathetic perspective I hope for the sake of the customers of raycast and for its employees that Microsoft is not into any kind of negotiations with Raycast at the moment.

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BugsJustFindMe1mo ago

> Microsoft has a history of monopoly behavior

I just want to note that the case you link to was 25 years ago. The number of people working at Microsoft at the time who are still working there today is very small.

rchaud1mo ago

The Microsoft that was prosecuted for monopoly behaviour 25 years ago is definitely not the same Microsoft that owns:

- Github

- LinkedIn

- Activision Blizzard

- Xbox

- Azure, Sharepoint and Teams w/Copilot embedded everywhere

- major stake in OpenAI

- a multibillion dollar ad product portfolio (LinkedIn ads, Bing Ads)

TheScaryOne1mo ago

After being told to not integrate Internet Explorer into the OS, they changed the name to EDGE and did it anyway? With the added excuse that it now compromises most of the file explorer functionality, too?

altairprime1mo ago

No, Edge isn’t Internet Explorer; they coexist if necessary for enterprise and legal reasons :)

QuantumGood1mo ago

> "history .. 25 years ago"

The comment was brief, and added detail is welcome, but corporate mission/culture often extends over time even with changes in leadership. Partly because of what was accepted in the past.

burkaman1mo ago

One of those people is the CEO though.

lelanthran1mo ago

> I just want to note that the case you link to was 25 years ago. The number of people working at Microsoft at the time who are still working there today is very small.

That's just a long way of calling Microsoft a bunch of monkeys :-)

https://wiki.c2.com/?TheFiveMonkeys=

ncr100OP1mo ago

Wow this is a beautiful illustration :-) thanks for linking it to me.

ncr100OP1mo ago

True!

I think it is more reasonable to expect that the corporate behavior @ MS would remain in spite of the turn-over, especially if it's valuable / profitable to MS.

See "Tim Cook" at Apple and the preparation (the "we will do things Steve's way" pledge) run-up to him taking over after Steve Jobs's exit from CEO-ship was announced. Apple is still doing many business activities in the same way.

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BugsJustFindMe1mo ago

> Microsoft has a history of monopoly behavior

I just want to note that the case you link to was 25 years ago. The number of people working at Microsoft at the time who are still working there today is very small.

rchaud1mo ago

The Microsoft that was prosecuted for monopoly behaviour 25 years ago is definitely not the same Microsoft that owns:

- Github

- LinkedIn

- Activision Blizzard

- Xbox

- Azure, Sharepoint and Teams w/Copilot embedded everywhere

- major stake in OpenAI

- a multibillion dollar ad product portfolio (LinkedIn ads, Bing Ads)

TheScaryOne1mo ago

altairprime1mo ago

No, Edge isn’t Internet Explorer; they coexist if necessary for enterprise and legal reasons :)

QuantumGood1mo ago

> "history .. 25 years ago"

The comment was brief, and added detail is welcome, but corporate mission/culture often extends over time even with changes in leadership. Partly because of what was accepted in the past.

burkaman1mo ago

One of those people is the CEO though.

lelanthran1mo ago

> I just want to note that the case you link to was 25 years ago. The number of people working at Microsoft at the time who are still working there today is very small.

That's just a long way of calling Microsoft a bunch of monkeys :-)

https://wiki.c2.com/?TheFiveMonkeys=

ncr100OP1mo ago

Wow this is a beautiful illustration :-) thanks for linking it to me.

ncr100OP1mo ago

True!

I think it is more reasonable to expect that the corporate behavior @ MS would remain in spite of the turn-over, especially if it's valuable / profitable to MS.

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