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0 pointsthrowaway274482mo ago0 comments

Intellectual property never made much sense to begin with. But it certainly makes no sense now, where the common creator has no protections against greedy corporate giants who are happy to wield the full weight of the courts to stifle any competition for longer than we'll be alive.

Or, in the case of LLMs, recklessly swing about software they don't understand while praying to find a business model.

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As12872mo ago· 4 in thread

Poor billionaire Rowling has no protections against the evil corporations. Everyone using this argument has no clue about artists and and writers.

Yes, corporations take a large cut, but creative people welcomed copyright and made the bargain and got fame in the process. Which was always better for them than let Twitch take 70% and be a sharecropper.

Silicon Valley middlemen are far worse than the media and music industry.

graemep2mo ago

The individuals who get rich from copyright are a rarity.

Most mid-list authors make very little from copyright. A lot of the "authors" who make a lot of money from writing are celebs who slap their name on a ghost written work.

> Which was always better for them than let Twitch take 70% and be a sharecropper.

Copyright predates Twitch or giant corporations and was designed to protect the profits of the publishers from the start.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statute_of_Anne

lstodd2mo ago

This is so, but note that publishers were the "giant corporations" of the time.

In this nothing changed. Authors never were and still are not the point of copyright/IP.

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oblio2mo ago

Giant corporations started in the early 1600s and back then they had gunboats :-p

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jacquesm2mo ago

The reason you mention 'poor billionaire Rowling' is most likely because she's the only billionaire author that you know by name. If authors regularly became billionaires you'd have left out that name.

not_paid_by_yt2mo ago· 1 in thread

hey just don't try to copy their LLM by distilling it, cause that's "theft", if we weren't all doomed anyways this industry would have never been allowed to exist in the first place, but I guess this is just what the last few decades of our civilization will look like.

vova_hn22mo ago

> hey just don't try to copy their LLM by distilling it, cause that's "theft"

They can call it whatever they want, but I don't think that it is illegal.

eru2mo ago

> [...] greedy corporate giants who are happy to wield the full weight of the courts to stifle any competition for longer than we'll be alive.

How is any of this new?

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8 comments · 3 top-level

As12872mo ago· 4 in thread

Poor billionaire Rowling has no protections against the evil corporations. Everyone using this argument has no clue about artists and and writers.

Silicon Valley middlemen are far worse than the media and music industry.

graemep2mo ago

The individuals who get rich from copyright are a rarity.

Most mid-list authors make very little from copyright. A lot of the "authors" who make a lot of money from writing are celebs who slap their name on a ghost written work.

> Which was always better for them than let Twitch take 70% and be a sharecropper.

Copyright predates Twitch or giant corporations and was designed to protect the profits of the publishers from the start.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statute_of_Anne

lstodd2mo ago

This is so, but note that publishers were the "giant corporations" of the time.

In this nothing changed. Authors never were and still are not the point of copyright/IP.

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oblio2mo ago

Giant corporations started in the early 1600s and back then they had gunboats :-p

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jacquesm2mo ago

not_paid_by_yt2mo ago· 1 in thread

vova_hn22mo ago

> hey just don't try to copy their LLM by distilling it, cause that's "theft"

They can call it whatever they want, but I don't think that it is illegal.

eru2mo ago

> [...] greedy corporate giants who are happy to wield the full weight of the courts to stifle any competition for longer than we'll be alive.

How is any of this new?

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