This is news to me - which males are you talking about here?
> This is a dumb ass way to try and define the woman's category...
It's really not, though. They found a marker they can test for, and have clearly defined exceptions.
This poor bloke who found out he was infertile during a premarital medical exam, for instance: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7760426/
> It's really not, though. They found a marker they can test for, and have clearly defined exceptions.
Have you heard of the politician's fallacy, "something needs to be done, this is something, so this needs to be done"...
Your argument here is that... needing a test, and having a test, doesn't mean it's the right test.
You're also assuming that we even need a test... evidence (no transfemale olympians ever coming not dead last) suggests we don't.
Interesting. Perhaps a better test is needed.
> You're also assuming that we even need a test... evidence (no transfemale olympians ever coming not dead last) suggests we don't.
This isn't just about trans women, but also about DSD cases like Imane Khelif and Caster Semenya.
The bottom line is these tests will catch dozens of people who are phenotypically women, who can even give birth. Why should men be allowed to compete as genetic freaks but not women?
But I want to point out that XY+CAIS individuals cannot conceive or carry a child. They have no ovaries and no uterus.
> Why should men be allowed to compete as genetic freaks but not women?
They are, if they are female or have CAIS. Caster Semenya, for example, does not meet that standard. Caster was assigned female at birth and raised as a girl, but is not biologically female, rather a male with a DSD (5-ARD) who has testes and fully male levels of testosterone and musculature.
it doesn't really do anything after puberty
it's about gene expression and it can be discarded genetically
so yes there are "men" walking around who would show negative on a SRY test and qualify
again, they tried this exact thing in 1996
and it went over so badly they ended it by 2000
this is 100% politics and conservative people with power trying to manipulate things
biology is not binary, it's messy and not exact
there are "common" things and less common
Another approach would have been to accommodate the less common
But you'll notice they didn't even try to do that
