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0 pointsshimman1mo ago0 comments

Seems fair to me, they're a nonprofit that exists in our lived reality and not an abusive monopolist that can literally throw a billion dollars to subsidize loss leaders.

All it shows the world is why there needs to be a VAT like tax against US digital services to help drive a public option for developers.

There's no reason why the people can't make our own solutions rather than be confined to abusive private US tech platforms.

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germandiago1mo ago

Adding taxes to things does not help anyone and goes against free choice.

A better alternative would be to create the incentives so that companies like these can be born in Europe.

era-epoch1mo ago

Companies like Microsoft should not be given "incentives to exist" anywhere (at least as they exist currently). They are corrosive to the public good.

germandiago1mo ago

Are you sure? Enumerate all the competition and associated technilogy this has enabled for decades: tooling, software, etc.

I am not sure how someone should be entitled to prevent others from enjoying thr benefits of better technology.

If you do not like it, just skip it, as I do.

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cromka1mo ago

This doesn't work in when a market is run by oligopolies, you have to regulate to restore some sort of normalcy and competition.

germandiago1mo ago

Oligopolies are the result of overregulation.

Just fix the right things, not the wrong ones.

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shimmanOP1mo ago

Disagree the only alternative is to let the people decide, I don't trust a dozen men that already have deeply undemocratic beliefs to dictate the direction of tech for society.

You are against democracy, I am not. Democracy has led to some of the best advances of civilization, all oligarchies have done is introduce mass poverty, mass misery, and mass death.

At least with democracy we went to the moon for mankind, not shareholders.

germandiago1mo ago

No. I am not against democracy. If you do not like what someone does, you have rights to fight for.

Your definition of not letting people choose goes more against democracy that what I mean IMHO.

Just do not let these people collude with the power. Fewer politicians would mean fewer people doing business to influence others through politics.

That is what my experience tells me.

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germandiago1mo ago

Adding taxes to things does not help anyone and goes against free choice.

A better alternative would be to create the incentives so that companies like these can be born in Europe.

era-epoch1mo ago

Companies like Microsoft should not be given "incentives to exist" anywhere (at least as they exist currently). They are corrosive to the public good.

germandiago1mo ago

Are you sure? Enumerate all the competition and associated technilogy this has enabled for decades: tooling, software, etc.

I am not sure how someone should be entitled to prevent others from enjoying thr benefits of better technology.

If you do not like it, just skip it, as I do.

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cromka1mo ago

This doesn't work in when a market is run by oligopolies, you have to regulate to restore some sort of normalcy and competition.

germandiago1mo ago

Oligopolies are the result of overregulation.

Just fix the right things, not the wrong ones.

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shimmanOP1mo ago

Disagree the only alternative is to let the people decide, I don't trust a dozen men that already have deeply undemocratic beliefs to dictate the direction of tech for society.

You are against democracy, I am not. Democracy has led to some of the best advances of civilization, all oligarchies have done is introduce mass poverty, mass misery, and mass death.

At least with democracy we went to the moon for mankind, not shareholders.

germandiago1mo ago

No. I am not against democracy. If you do not like what someone does, you have rights to fight for.

Your definition of not letting people choose goes more against democracy that what I mean IMHO.

Just do not let these people collude with the power. Fewer politicians would mean fewer people doing business to influence others through politics.

That is what my experience tells me.

j / k navigate · click thread line to collapse