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That's impressive. I'm also a bit surprised - I wouldn't have expected it to be trained much at all on that sort of visual input task. I think I'd be similarly surprised to learn that a frontier model was particularly good at playing retro videogames or actuating a robot for example.

However, if it can't figure out to render the json to a visual on its own does it really qualify as AGI? I'd still say the benchmark is doing its job here. Granted it's not a perfectly even playing field in that case but I think the goal is to test for progress towards AGI as opposed to hosting a fair tournament.

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rfoo4h ago

> However, if it can't figure out to render the json to a visual on its own does it really qualify as AGI? I'd still say the benchmark is doing its job here.

Can you render serialized JSON text blob to a visual with your brain only? The model can't do anything better than this - no harness means no tool at all, no way to e.g. implement a visualizer in whatever programming language and run it.

Why don't human testers receive the same JSON text blob and no visualizers? It's like giving human testers a harness (a playable visualizer), but deliberately cripples it for the model.

fc417fc802OP4h ago

Huh. I thought it wasn't supposed to receive any instructions tailored to the task but I didn't understand it to be restricted from accessing truly general tools such as programming languages. To do otherwise is to require pointless hoop jumping as frontier models inevitably get retrained to play games using a json (or other arbitrary) representation at which point it will be natural for them and the real test will begin.

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