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0 pointsJumpCrisscross15h ago0 comments

> You should go take a look at what Lenin and many other communists was doing and where he was physically right before the October revolution

To what effect? The only other successful Communist revolution prior to the conclusion of the October revolution was the one in Mongolia [1]. It built on decade-old revolutionary ground [2]. (Finland, meanwhile, was seceding from White Russia.)

Trying to cause a revolution from abroad just doesn't work. Exhibit A: right now.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_revolution#Successfu...

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1911_Revolution

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don_esteban6h ago

Re: Trying to cause a revolution from abroad just doesn't work.

Are you just blindly ignoring all 'regime changes' supported/caused by US (i.e. from abroad) since WW2?

Some of them do not work (this one is especially botched). Many, many have succeeded (the initial change), with typically less successful outcomes over longer time frames.

And you are totally missing the point of the remark about Lenin and Germany's part (essentially sending him to destabilize Russia in order to help their WW1 efforts - succeeded wildly beyond expectations, to disastrous long term consequences)

JumpCrisscrossOP6h ago

> Are you just blindly ignoring all 'regime changes' supported/caused by US (i.e. from abroad) since WW2?

What fraction was popular revolt versus military coup? Engineered from afar?

> totally missing the point of the remark about Lenin and Germany's part (essentially sending him to destabilize Russia

Oh fair, I did miss this. I would argue this is leveling up an existing revolution. But sure, this is the closest N = 1 modern history offers.

don_esteban5h ago

What fraction was engineered 'popular revolt'? Read up a bit on the color revolutions... e.g. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2004/nov/26/ukraine.usa

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