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0 pointsweakened_malloc9h ago0 comments

You're doing God's work mate.

It's really surprising to me that this issue keeps coming up time and time again, until I realised that it's non-voted in parties actually trying to pass this stuff!

I didn't realise that the EU parliament simply says yes or no to bills and doesn't actually propose new laws, whilst the EU Commission are appointed and decide on what bills to push through.

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hermanzegerman7h ago

The Commission consists of the Member States. So obviously they are also voted-in parties since the government of the Member States is democratically elected

DeathArrow30m ago

The commissioners are a few but the people who make the actual bills and policies are clerks and bureaucrats who were never elected neither directly nor indirectly. And while the commissioners do change, the EU bureaucrats never change.

weakened_mallocOP5h ago

True but it's a step removed. The MEPs are directly voted in whilst the EC are not, they're "voted in" on account of "voted in" people assigning them to the EC.

I mean nobody argues that the FED governor is voted in, right? In reality a lot of people argue that they're unelected and yet making decisions that affect everyone.

supermattnew17m ago

The European Commission represents the interests of the member states, while the European Parliament represent the interests of the citizens. NO LAW CAN PASS without the consent of the citizens directly elected representatives. There is no "pushing through".

If you don't like how you are represented at the commission, then blame your government. It is THEIR representative - not yours.

Also, don't forget that the commission as a whole needs to be approved by a vote at European Parliament - i.e. by the directly elected representatives.

38362936482h ago

This in standard in europe. Most places don't vote for their PM or President either, they're just the leader of the largest party in parliament and chosen by parliament

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markdown3h ago

As it should be.

It's good that both the US Fed Reserve Governor and EC appointees didn't have win popularity contests to get there.

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