They already do.
The entire financial system, all of social media, and many organizations past a certain size.
I did not quote out of context - the commenter was missattributing context.
And some things are reported, others are not, point being, yes E2E isn't reported for obvious reasons. Loads of stuff isn't reported on social media; in fact, that's the absurd complaint against Meta!
And regardless of what is done now, that doesn't mean we want it. I didn't say it is or isn't done, I said "You really don't" want that. The more encroachment in that realm, the less free a people are.
We 100% absolutely do want 'basic surveillance' on many systems, and it's not even an argument.
It's like saying 'We shouldn't have police, because they are oppressive!' and assuming things would just carry on and not go to pot.
It's a wild assertion.
Formally - the entire financial system is about attribution, fraud, monitoring and security.
That's probably more than 1/2 of the function.
Your money would not be safe if your bank didn't have good controls, or if we did not have good regulations around those functions.
It's why if you send > $10K overseas, it gets flagged. We generally want this, though obviously within a regulated context.
Less formally, we absolutely, 100% do want the 'Starbucks employees' to have enough common sense to call the police or to flag something if there is some creepshow doing something that may be 'legal' but is obviously not appropriate - within reason.
Starbucks has not only 'policy' around behaviour, but also we have 'common sense' as a society.
It's not even remotely contentious that Starbucks is both private property and can set some 'terms' , but that it's also a regular community locale, with social conventions.
Just as Facebook - and many (most places) like that are 'community hang outs' - subject to regular social conventions, established by the 'owners'.
They're not 'no-identity-hacker-zones' for folks to publish their freak-ware or whatever, with ultra privacy guarantees.
Conversely - yes - it's just as important that if people want to establish their 'hacker-zones' - they can do that. That's important. And obviously Facebook has to be subject to some minimal privacy regulations.
But most places will have some degree of social overview (like literally the grocery store would have) and 'that's normal' in any civil society.
It's already pervasive because it's impossible to have basic social function without them.
Read the story about the former Twitter CEO who talks about this kind of thing pre-Elon Musk. 'Moderation' is most of the job and by far the hardest thing. We think of it as 'back end systems' it has almost nothing to do with that. It's the 'social' part of the 'social network' that's the key part. Moderation.
