as far as i have been able track (linkedin, email, etc.) roughly 3/4 of the previous graduating cybersec class has been unable to get a job in cybersec. probably 1/2 of those are struggling to find even basic sysadmin or password-resetter positions.
this is significantly different than when the program started (around 2015 or so), where roughly 4/5 of the graduating class had jobs (specifically in cybersec) lined up at the time of graduation.
cybersec is a bit of an outlier, but i see a similar trend with the networking program and game design program as well (the only other 2 i have first-hand knowledge of)
its rough out there! (i am recommending to my kids that they avoid post-secondary)
i hear this online a lot but never from the companies and hiring managers that hired our cybersec students for the last decade.
keep in mind, this is not a 6-month "intro to cybersec" or bootcamp-style program.
I think that's a mistake, unless you mean "and go into debt for college". Working with many people over the years the educated (in STEM) are noticably better quality than high school or bootcamp folks on average. Work ethic or amount of code written is not an issue, just the general thinking through of problems.
well, yes. i am not rich. they would need to take loans. and from what i am seeing, they would likely end up working in the exact same position as the 19 year old who decided to go directly into the workforce.
i will, of course, support them no matter what they decide. but when we discuss options, i emphasize skilled trades, or working for a few years before committing themselves to tens of thousands of dollars of debt to very possibly end up in a position that doesnt require the schooling.
Certainly I'd avoid an expensive standard university to start unless they have an obvious path. I'd recommend the local community college for 2 years to get an Associate's Degree of some form though with an eye on heading to a university for the last bits.
Cybersecurity is a subset of computer science.
> as far as i have been able track (linkedin, email, etc.) roughly 3/4 of the previous graduating cybersec class has been unable to get a job in cybersec. probably 1/2 of those are struggling to find even basic sysadmin or password-resetter positions.
What is the curriculum that is being taught in your program?
If it's "how to be a Splunk or Crowdstrike" admin or "how to be an L1 SOC" I don't think that is a hireable skill at this point.
its not, and up until recently (~2 years or so), the majority of our graduates were instantly picked up.
I'm surprised that one goes into a field as small and competitive as art history in these days.
Museums, how many relevant art related roles can there be nation wide?
It's become harder to vet undergrads in the US for specific subfields because of either a lack of preparation or subpar career services.
Additonally, at least in CS/CE the number of candidates have skyrocketed, but the reality is most companies can limit new grad hiring to 10-20 target programs nationally and 2-3 local programs and get the talent pipeline they need.
Why? In my opinion a new grads can do good work and they take very low salary.
Doesn't mean will, and if their work isn't good the low salary isn't particularly beneficial.
And you will only be happy of course because it’s above you status to worry about the upsetting things.
