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0 pointsdijit6d ago0 comments

Ironic, because I feel like they’re the same, it’s semantic feely words that are different.

Right to vote was already established before the change of the name (subject->citizen).

So, what changed? Well subjects have “privileges” that are afforded from the monarch, and citizens have “rights” which are given from the state.

Except:

1) In olde english law, the monarch and the state are literally the same thing.

2) Rights seem to be pretty loosely followed if they’re actually, you know, RIGHTS, and not privileges afforded from the state.

I’d say that semantically the difference is how the words make you feel, not the actual applicability of the terms to anything that has been realised.

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dghf6d ago

I think I've heard something similar -- that subjects have duties while citizens have rights.

But of course, citizens typically also have duties -- commonly, the duty to take up arms to defend the state -- and subjects can legitimately expect a reciprocity of obligations from the sovereign (e.g. the enforcement of the "King's Peace"), which sounds quite a bit like rights to me.

(All of which is a verbose and not very coherent way of saying that I agree with you.)

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