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0 pointschii7d ago0 comments

> Creating something without the effort previous works involved, can and do affect the context and understanding of it

not really. Unless you place value on _effort_, rather than be objectively outcome based. Someone digging a hole with a spoon doesn't make it a better hole than a jackhammer.

I maintain that the work itself - that is, the contents of what is being expressed - is the sole judgement of how good the works is. Not the authorship, LLM-usage or otherwise.

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intended7d ago

Eh, by that same argument, how would LLMs fair when the content of the work itself is about “Something made by a human”.

A core fact about information, is that signal only exists in the right context.

As an illustrative example: A string of static or gibberish numbers converts to signal when we have the right tools to interpret it.

You could see a bunch of rocks arranged on a beach, while someone who understands the local language may see an SOS.

Culture itself keeps evolving, and teenagers reuse language to create jargon that makes sense to them, but is opaque to others.

I am arguing that your point is true, but its phrasing focuses on the Platonic ideal, and avoiding the messy practical context of communication.

chiiOP7d ago

The context exists whether it's LLM generated or not, because the context sits broadly in society, culture, and manifests in the mind of the reader.

> how would LLMs fair when the content of the work itself is about “Something made by a human”.

it would fair just as well as if the same words had been written by a human, provided the contents are sound and has good meaning - conversely, slop is slop, regardless if it was written by an LLM or human.

My point at the grandparent post is that there's a lot of blind discrimination on the origin of a works - if it was written by or with the help of LLM, then it automatically deserves less attention, and/or its content's worth diminished. All without actually discussing the content.

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