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0 pointscmcaleer1mo ago0 comments

I think if, 10 years ago, you spun Microsoft into several different companies with everything playing out exactly as it has today in the product management side, the most direct consumer-facing sections like Windows Desktop and Xbox would have cratered and most analysts would say that they have bleak futures, while Azure and 365 would have grossly overperformed and would have been titans.

MS has been successful despite fucking up the monolithic position they held in desktop and gaming, because they managed to find a particularly valuable golden goose. It's just that in doing so they allowed the other golden geese they have to become quite sick.

If you took out cloud rev MS would have been much more motivated to not let the rest of the company's products turn in to the sorry state they're in.

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solid_fuel1mo ago

If you had separated them, 365 would probably run on AWS and have better cross-browser support.

still_grokking1mo ago

Most client PC are still running on Microslop Windows.

They are, as always, using Windows to sell all their other crap, especially Azure and 365. Things like their AD or office tools are tightly integrated into the cloud so you realistically can't even use the one without using the other.

avhception1mo ago

At work, we needed a PC for a Linux-based Webkiosk the other day. The computer proposed by the colleague who actually orders stuff comes with a Windows license. I said we don't need that. A fruitless, lame effort was made to locate a substitute w/o a Windows license. I renewed my protest, but the feeling that the problem is me was already floating in the air. I gave up. We purchased a Windows license to run Linux. For the umpteenth time. It's like a Microsoft tax on PCs.

al_borland1mo ago

Those OEM licenses do seem quite cheap. I think it was Dell who gave an option for a while. To remove the Windows license and have Ubuntu instead only saved $10.

It was low enough where I think most buyers questioned if it would be worth it to have the license just incase.

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rini171mo ago

Kiosk can probably be done with rpi.

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account421mo ago

Yeah, this kind of crap is exactly what antitrust laws are supposed to prevent but governments don't care.

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solid_fuel1mo ago

If you had separated them, 365 would probably run on AWS and have better cross-browser support.

still_grokking1mo ago

Most client PC are still running on Microslop Windows.

avhception1mo ago

al_borland1mo ago

Those OEM licenses do seem quite cheap. I think it was Dell who gave an option for a while. To remove the Windows license and have Ubuntu instead only saved $10.

It was low enough where I think most buyers questioned if it would be worth it to have the license just incase.

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rini171mo ago

Kiosk can probably be done with rpi.

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account421mo ago

Yeah, this kind of crap is exactly what antitrust laws are supposed to prevent but governments don't care.

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