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0 pointsvchynarov7d ago0 comments

I agree the economics here don’t make sense, but leave where? The rest of the world has increasingly strange, or at least unattractive, economics too.

The US is a difficult and long process to get a green card. Other English-speaking countries aren’t necessarily better: Australia seems similar in terms of being a natural resource extraction economy with insanely high real estate prices. Same productivity and salary concerns with the UK.

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jjmarr6d ago

It's trivial to move to the USA on a TN1 from Canada compared to any other visa category.

If you have a job letter, you show up to the airport and CBP can issue it immediately.

This includes software development which is responsible for GDP growth. Which is why 80-90% of CS students at the University of Waterloo immediately move to the USA after graduation.

rdevilla6d ago

> Which is why 80-90% of CS students at the University of Waterloo immediately move to the USA after graduation.

I am familiar with this statistic. It explains a lot about the Toronto tech community, especially versus Waterloo's.

bluefirebrand6d ago

> It's trivial to move to the USA on a TN1 from Canada compared to any other visa category

Okay, but as a Canadian, why would I? American seems like a shithole. All of my American friends are trying to get out asap

jjmarr6d ago

There is no tech talent in Canada due to the pay/tax difference and TN1 is good for SWEs.

e.g. Nobody at my office has heard of Gas Town yet. I had to get an invite to a predominantly American Teams chat to discuss it. It's a very draining environment.

Also, senior devs make US$110k and a detached home costs US$800k. I would pay less in taxes and a home would be cheaper relative to income in California.

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brailsafe6d ago

If I could, I wouldn't. The U.S is fine usually to visit, but I wouldn't prefer to live there. Thankfully there are theoretically other alternatives that are much more appealing regardless of absolute earnings. The vibes could be better north of the border, but the U.S gives the ick

chaostheory6d ago

Non-English speaking country? One alternative is the Philippines. Most of the population is able to speak English.

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0 pointsvchynarov7d ago0 comments

I agree the economics here don’t make sense, but leave where? The rest of the world has increasingly strange, or at least unattractive, economics too.

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jjmarr6d ago

It's trivial to move to the USA on a TN1 from Canada compared to any other visa category.

If you have a job letter, you show up to the airport and CBP can issue it immediately.

This includes software development which is responsible for GDP growth. Which is why 80-90% of CS students at the University of Waterloo immediately move to the USA after graduation.

rdevilla6d ago

> Which is why 80-90% of CS students at the University of Waterloo immediately move to the USA after graduation.

I am familiar with this statistic. It explains a lot about the Toronto tech community, especially versus Waterloo's.

bluefirebrand6d ago

> It's trivial to move to the USA on a TN1 from Canada compared to any other visa category

Okay, but as a Canadian, why would I? American seems like a shithole. All of my American friends are trying to get out asap

jjmarr6d ago

There is no tech talent in Canada due to the pay/tax difference and TN1 is good for SWEs.

e.g. Nobody at my office has heard of Gas Town yet. I had to get an invite to a predominantly American Teams chat to discuss it. It's a very draining environment.

Also, senior devs make US$110k and a detached home costs US$800k. I would pay less in taxes and a home would be cheaper relative to income in California.

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brailsafe6d ago

chaostheory6d ago

Non-English speaking country? One alternative is the Philippines. Most of the population is able to speak English.

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