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0 pointsleptons12d ago0 comments

That's nonsense. There's plenty of people that want those APIs that don't work at Google. And it does not give Google "unmediated access" - you have to explicitly opt-in to allow the browser to use them when a website requests access to these APIs. But of course, don't let the facts get in the way of your fanboyism for Apple.

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troad12d ago

And when it's normalised for firmware updates to happen via WebHID and WebUSB? Saying no will seem as fringe as browsing the web with NoScript. It's already the main way to upgrade keyboard firmware for a lot of mechanical keyboards, and it only works on Chrome. Thrilling developments for Google.

>> But of course, don't let the facts get in the way of your fanboyism for Apple.

Mate, I didn't even mention Apple. You're the one with the fixation here. Mozilla/Firefox is also deeply opposed to these anti-features.

leptonsOP11d ago

>Mozilla/Firefox is also deeply opposed to these anti-features.

Mozilla is irrelevant, and they don't have a hardware platform where they forbid all other browser engines from it like Apple does.

If Apple weren't total assholes and didn't forbid Chrome from actually being Chrome on iOS, then I wouldn't care, I'd simply tell users to install Chrome. But Apple forces all browsers on iOS to use Safari, which they have intentionally crippled and refuse to let other browsers use their own engine.

If you don't think that's abusive business practices and deserves the DOJ lawsuit, then you're just another Apple shill.

troad10d ago

>> Mozilla is irrelevant, and they don't have a hardware platform where they forbid all other browser engines from it like Apple does.

>> If Apple weren't total assholes

>> Apple forces all browsers on iOS to use Safari

>> you're just another Apple shill.

I've still not even mentioned Apple once.

You seem extremely fixated on Apple.

I'm not aware of any major corporation, group, standards body, or OSS project that would agree with Google's attempts to extend the browser so deeply beyond the web. The general consensus is that it is deeply reckless.

Google failed to get stuff like WebHID into the standard - because everyone thinks it's a terrible idea - so they've just rolled it out on their own anyway, using their browser monopoly to force facts on the ground. Facts favourable to Google, unsurprisingly.

When Microsoft did this sort of thing, we used to call them out on it. I have no idea why you seem so adamant to defend this. I can only suspect that you've let yourself become completely partisan in some grand Google-Apple war that you've imagined, which is why you keep bringing up Apple out of nowhere?

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