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0 pointsJumpCrisscross14d ago0 comments

> American “crimes“ are dismissed with some rhetorical non-response like “hmmph, no one claimed we are perfect”, or immediately contrasted with some arbitrary Chinese “crime”, then dropped just as fast

America debates and exhibits its faults, at least internally. The Tulsa Massacre is a movie and cultural discussion point in a way Tiananmen Square is not in China. Neither should have happened. And neither is universally acknowledged or atoned for. But if we’re debating which system AI should emulate, I know it’s not just the one that explicitly buries its faults.

> Judge my enemies by their actions. Judge me by my words

Judge both by both. The ability to have words about shameful actions is not meaningless.

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keybored13d ago

Yeah you talk about how you stumble into wars. Then you do it again. Then eventually it gets relegated to bah, but who is perfect. (Let me tell you who is not perfect: it’s China)

This is a concept that a twelve-year-old has enough ego formation to understand. Not so for the shared nationalistic consciousness.

fc417fc80213d ago

Your responses seem politically charged and not in good faith. You've failed to actually engage with what the person you're responding to wrote several times now.

What is your goal here?

keybored13d ago

> Your responses seem politically charged

We are talking about China and the US.

> and not in good faith.

I am playing with open cards. No hidden agendas.

> You've failed to actually engage with what the person you're responding to wrote several times now.

We disagree on the very premises. That leads to one person saying something then the other one dismissing it then the first person dismissing what the second person says in turn. Completely normal.

> What is your goal here?

To bemoan people glorifying America as it invades countries and causes problems for the whole world.

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0 pointsJumpCrisscross14d ago0 comments

> Judge my enemies by their actions. Judge me by my words

Judge both by both. The ability to have words about shameful actions is not meaningless.

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keybored13d ago

Yeah you talk about how you stumble into wars. Then you do it again. Then eventually it gets relegated to bah, but who is perfect. (Let me tell you who is not perfect: it’s China)

This is a concept that a twelve-year-old has enough ego formation to understand. Not so for the shared nationalistic consciousness.

fc417fc80213d ago

Your responses seem politically charged and not in good faith. You've failed to actually engage with what the person you're responding to wrote several times now.

What is your goal here?

keybored13d ago

> Your responses seem politically charged

We are talking about China and the US.

> and not in good faith.

I am playing with open cards. No hidden agendas.

> You've failed to actually engage with what the person you're responding to wrote several times now.

We disagree on the very premises. That leads to one person saying something then the other one dismissing it then the first person dismissing what the second person says in turn. Completely normal.

> What is your goal here?

To bemoan people glorifying America as it invades countries and causes problems for the whole world.

j / k navigate · click thread line to collapse