undefined | Better HN

0 pointsalwillis21d ago0 comments

> want to make this about a brand, and not a platform, because the Apple platform is very low ranking in the larger world of Smartphones.

Let me get this straight: you believe the iPhone "is very low ranking in the larger world of Smartphones" even though it's the most popular and best selling smartphone in the five largest economies on the planet.

I posted the 5 top selling smartphones in the European 5, United States, Australia, Japan, and China—out of 25 models listed, 80% (20 out of 25) were iPhones.

Don't hate the player, hate the game. No matter what you believe, the number are the numbers:

- Apple’s iPhone marketshare in the US is 60% vs Samsung’s at 22%

- the iPhone alone brought in $209,586 billion in FY 2025 [1]

- if the iPhone were its own company, it would be #9 on the Fortune 500

- Apple's iPhone revenue is greater than the revenue of Dell, Hewlett-Packard, Intel and AMD combined.

[1]: https://s2.q4cdn.com/470004039/files/doc_financials/2025/ar/...

0 comments

leptons21d ago

The mental gymnastics you're doing is impressive!

>"Apple’s iPhone marketshare in the US is 60% vs Samsung’s at 22%"

Which iPhone, which Samsung?

And you're cherry-picking the US market only.

Worldwide, Apple's market share sucks. Oh, but I guess the rest of the world doesn't matter to you as long as the numbers make sense in your own head that Apple is somehow "winning".

Apple has never had and never will have the market share that others have - Windows and Android eclipse Apple's 15%-30%. Those are the numbers you're so desperate to avoid acknowledging.

It's a pretty pathetic display of fanboyism, and it's rather boring - this "conversation" is over.

alwillisOP21d ago

> And you're cherry-picking the US market only.

They say reading is fundamental; you might want to practice to get your comprehension up.

I literally provided the top selling smartphones in China, Japan, Australia and a group of 5 countries in the European Union. The iPhone topped the sales charts in all of them.

> Which iPhone, which Samsung?

All of them? The total of all the iPhone models sold in the US was about 3x the total of all the Samsung models sold here. That’s the 60% vs 22% difference I mentioned earlier.

> Those are the numbers you're so desperate to avoid acknowledging.

Nobody disputes Android’s 72% global market share vs Apple’s 27%. You can calm down now. ;-)

To simplify things for you, Android dominates in developing countries in Africa, Asia, Central and South America. For example, Android has 95%(!) of the market in India, which is ironic since iPhones for the US are made there now.

It goes without saying iPhone does much better in more affluent countries. So does Samsung.

> It's a pretty pathetic display of fanboyism, and it's rather boring - this "conversation" is over.

When someone isn’t doing so well in a debate, they resort to insults and name calling. Sad.

It’s not that your “opinions” are worth responding to on their merits—they’re not.

I’m writing for readers that might come across this thread and learn something they didn’t already know.

leptons20d ago

Sorry you wasted your time writing something that I won't read, but I told you, this conversation is over. You didn't "win" here, you only made yourself look like a pathetic, desperate fanboi.

1 more reply

j / k navigate · click thread line to collapse