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0 pointsstrcat25d ago0 comments

If you're in Europe you can use Curve Pay, PayPal and multiple banks which haven't moved to Google Pay. Alternatively, pay in cash if you want privacy.

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bgnn24d ago

You cannot pay with cash in a lot of places in my European country. The number of no cash places is increasing by day.

You can use your debit card though.

padjo25d ago

Curve Pay refused to give me an account on my Murena FP6 and no local bank offers contactless without google pay, so I'm stuck using a bank card like a caveman.

Andromxda25d ago

> Curve Pay refused to give me an account on my Murena FP6

That's probably because /e/OS uses microG, which is vastly inferior to Sandboxed Google Play on GrapheneOS, and has much worse app compatibility. You should also know that /e/OS is a highly insecure OS, and both Fairphone and Murena are constantly misleading their customers with false marketing and false promises.

wolvoleo24d ago

MicroG has two huge advantages: you can inspect the code it's running, and you're not tied to Google services. For example you can replace the location service with a privacy respecting one. With the sandboxed play you can't do that, you're stuck with the Google version. The only thing you still need Google for is the push notifications, because the backend of the apps only speaks to them.

It would be amazing if grapheneos would support microG as an option. But they are too much "not invented here" for that to happen.

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ryukoposting24d ago

> so I'm stuck using a bank card like a caveman.

What is "caveman" about a payment method that doesn't need to have a charged battery?

padjo24d ago

It was intended as a light hearted description of how it feels to use a marginally less convenient technology. I now have to ensure I have my bank card with me when I buy groceries which is a tiny bit annoying when you got used to just knowing your phone would cover most things.

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fragmede24d ago

Cloning a mag strip is trivial, cloning a tap-to-pay tag a bit more complicated.

strcatOP23d ago

Murena products aren't nearly as compatible with apps as GrapheneOS along with having poor privacy and atrocious security. Instead of improving privacy and security, they greatly reduce both. Instead of taking great care with the privacy of the included services they bundle many invasive ones.

https://discuss.grapheneos.org/d/24134-devices-lacking-stand...

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bgnn24d ago

You cannot pay with cash in a lot of places in my European country. The number of no cash places is increasing by day.

You can use your debit card though.

padjo25d ago

Curve Pay refused to give me an account on my Murena FP6 and no local bank offers contactless without google pay, so I'm stuck using a bank card like a caveman.

Andromxda25d ago

> Curve Pay refused to give me an account on my Murena FP6

wolvoleo24d ago

It would be amazing if grapheneos would support microG as an option. But they are too much "not invented here" for that to happen.

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ryukoposting24d ago

> so I'm stuck using a bank card like a caveman.

What is "caveman" about a payment method that doesn't need to have a charged battery?

padjo24d ago

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fragmede24d ago

Cloning a mag strip is trivial, cloning a tap-to-pay tag a bit more complicated.

strcatOP23d ago

https://discuss.grapheneos.org/d/24134-devices-lacking-stand...

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