Apropos of the fact that nobody ever shows the actual OS, I did do a video showing the actual OS, if anyone wants to see it being used.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pMfezSulhw
To me this is way ahead of iOS/Android, the native browser sucks, and it requires some massaging to get everything running smoothly, but the UX is second to none. That fact well supported by how many features have been copied by Apple/Google over the years.
https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/q-enable-external-keyboard-mo...
Don't buy if this is your main goal.
I only jumped into Android after my Symbian phone died, and by then Symbian Belle, with QT and PIPS (PIPS Is POSIX on Symbian OS), it was already shapping great.
That Burning Memo was really a downer.
But more importantly, we need an alternative to two big tech companies who are cranking the enshittification dial right up while also remaining under a particular country's laws.
The "whatever you wish" seems to indicate that this is a regular switch that can be configured to turn off certain functionality. Is that true?
I was hoping for a solution that physically disconnects the microphone/cameras/etc, or at least acts at some lower level than the OS. But if it's flexible and configurable then it sadly doesn't look as secure.
edit: I want this phone, I have reserved a slot in the coming batch.
Just posing as an average Joe here, someone who does not host their own storage, calendar, contacts, phone tracking, remote wipe, the "free" features Google and Apple are known for on their phones.
This isn't for people with a consumer mindset. It’s for people who want a Linux computer in their pocket, more privacy, and still want to run some Android apps.
There are no longer any cellular chipset vendors based in Europe, afaik, so there's really no alternative. It's also hard to see how they will ever again be one.
Let us clarify here as it is very different indeed.
The Jolla C2 Community Phone is done in collaboration with Reeder, who is the HW vendor. This means Reeder sources the components, plans the production and does the manufacturing in Turkey. Jolla provides the complete software stack (Sailfish OS) which is installed by Reeder in the manufacturing.
In the new Jolla Phone everything is different. Jolla is the vendor, has designed the product itself, done the component sourcing and pays directly to the component vendors. We control the pipeline. Further, we have secured our position for the initial memory batch with advance purchase.
Also, to be clear: Reeder has no involvement in the new Jolla Phone.
Thank you for asking, very good points to clarify!
Smartphone apps have unfortunately become a hard requirement for basic day-to-day activities. Most companies offer them only for iOS and Android.
If your smartphone can't run the vast majority of apps, it is basically dead on arrival. Nobody is going to buy it when they need to carry another phone anyways.
The only way around this is either emulation (which Google is trying very hard to sabotage) or heavy-handed regulation forcing app developers to also support niche platforms. I don't think either option is likely to work.
should work for banking and governmental applications, especially as those should already have the workflow in place to support niche platforms.
I've never owned a smartphone in my life and are not planning on getting one, and I'm going through life just fine.
https://sailfishos.wiki/books/compatibility-list-of-android-...
So long as a service is being provided identically on a mobile website as it is in a native app, you can pin that website and get just the same experience without needing a native app.
Of course they cannot answer this in the FAQ, because they have no insight into how thousands of different banks and other third parties will make their decisions on which devices to allow.
https://www.linkedin.com/posts/anttisaarnio_just-incredible-...
I would say the same for global south. I am a US citizen, but the rest of the world is crazy to depend so much on US and China.
The phone looks good. I have looked at GrapheneOS, but not Jolla.
Oh the joy, of being able to back it up with restic, integrate my email, text and script based workflows, and have total control of the ports and software that runs on the device. That would be amazing!
This is coming from someone who has for the longest time been invested in Apple and the Apple Ecosystem. I adored the ease of integration of everything. The amazing synergy between their designers, and their engineers. I never really minded that things came later to the Apple Ecosystem. It just worked. And it was great.
But the golden statue, the absolute pathetic DMA attitude from Apple. It started to get to me. And I am trying to now get out of that Apple Ecosystem.
I don't think it'll be smooth. I think the process will be painful as I try to work around some of the limitations. No NFC payments will be my biggest painpoint as an ADHD addled man who forgets his wallet at least 3x a week. But it's worth trying. And it's worth supporting alternatives.
It works both ways.
Chat Control is a proposal. The other two above are established regulations on either side of the Atlantic.
Possibly the best per storage RAM price on the market right now!
Sailfish: https://github.com/sailfishos Android layer: https://github.com/libhybris/libhybris
Proprietary is not necessarily bad.
I guess this is a descendent of my 16 year old Nokia N900, and probably the best phone I had. It ran the Maemo operating system, and its UI was a forerunner to a lot of what is current. It also had a built in, full, terminal.
There was a community poll and I believe a headphone jack was the second-most requested feature after a MicroSD slot.
I appreciate they have to draw a line under the feature set somewhere, however the cost of an audio jack is literal pennies and I'm quite sure the PCB designers could have squeezed it in somewhere.
As someone who has no interest in wireless accessories it makes me unwilling to buy the phone.
This works wonderfully in quiet environments. But the moment you have any significant background noise, and need noise-cancelling headphones, this ends up being useless because no headsets do noise cancelling over a headphone jack - only internal batteries or USB connectivity.
Even with those rare wired-optional headsets that accept headphone cords, the noise cancelling functionality gets shut off the moment you plug the headphone jack in.
So having yet another 100th FOSS linux phone that won't run those apps is pointless until apps for these phones are shipped with feature parity, and they probably won't get shipped until these phones reach some critical mass adoption, and they won't get critical mass adoption because they don't run the popular apps.
https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/banking-apps-on-sailfish-os/1...
yes, stay away and don't help jolla do anything. they are charlatans.
Benefits: they would skyrocket in popularity and code quality without increasing the team and maintenance cost.
This way I would contribute to it with my money and time!
[1] https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/jolla-phone-update-lights-on-...
The original iPhone SE was the last time I enjoyed a phone’s design.
I do sometimes use the video for remote meetings but I don't care about picture quality for those.
The world premiere of the European Phone
https://jolla.com/content/uploads/2026/03/Jolla_Phone_PressR...
Jolla produces software, SailfishOS. The hardware for this phone is sourced from third party vendors and then assembled and sold by Jolla.
So it also comes down to what kind of OS you want. I find SailfishOS interesting, but I also really like the hardware of the Fairphone.
IMO there's a paradox with these privacy-focused mobile solutions. Just as with the expensive flagship corporate devices, the massive price tags suggest an assumption that we are doing all our computing on mobile. That's now the case for most normies. But for anyone who really cares about their privacy (not to mention sanity), there's a better solution available: repatriate most of one's computing to a laptop. At which point all these mobile devices become unjustifiably expensive. Hence the paradox.
PS: downvoting a reasoned opinion, apart from being lazy and toxic in any community, does not constitute a rebuttal.
Remember when you could buy EU made Nokias, Siemens and Ericssons? Even the chargers were made in Finland back then.
For those that care, search the news for strikes or layoffs, around the time iOS/Android were taking off.
I believe the phone is designed around feedback for customers/potential customers. Which tells me that other people have very different phone usage from my own. I would have asked for a much smaller phone and a €200 price tag. The processor and even a shitty camera doesn't really bother me. I just want a cheap phone that can run like five apps (sadly one is the type that won't work, i.e. payments), and not run Android or iOS.
https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io
https://wiki.postmarketos.org/wiki/Devices#Community
you can certainly buy some of the supported smaller devices (e.g. Pixel 3a) and change battery for new
sadly basically nothing newer than 2020
Yes they do ship phones !
Everyone is stuck on the 2015 tablet failure.
It is absolutely not. More than misleading title.
People are jumping on this "EU sovereignty" thing band-wagon and milking it for all it's worth.
Uhhhh… so why isn’t that final price stated, even provisionally?
I mean, if it’s going to be a 300€ phone, imma gonna bite. But if it’s going to be a 500+€ phone, I am going to want to know ahead of time. I don’t like surprises where cost is concerned. Leaves a very bad taste in the mouth.
Also, as an italian, Jolla reminds me a lot of the word "Ciolla", which you can only guess what it's a slang for. That doesn't help.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/films/2016/11/16/disney-renamed-...
But it wouldn’t justify other countries. Apparently it’s a trademark thing:
https://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=04d0b34d-efdb...
It's running a custom Wayland compositor and UI.
Still use all the Linux stack you expect (GCC, Wayland, SystemD, Pulseaudio, RPMs, Dbus ...)
It was to be expected that a lot of corps will want to milk the term "EU sovereignty" and good willed naive people who don't look inside the packaging.
To be fair, the Jolla tablet was in 2015, more than 10 years ago. Most probably, many of the people working at Jolla are not the same as then. Also, if you read carefully all the announcements and communication from Jolla, you can easily see they have learned from that crowdfunding affair. This is not the same offer, not in a long mile.
