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0 pointsscoofy25d ago0 comments

If we are talking about Democracy—which is where I started this—then yes. If occupied peoples don’t have representation in the government occupying them, yes, that’s very obviously less democratic than if they did. Quite literally by definition. This shouldn’t be controversial.

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bbshfishe25d ago

Prior to October 7th. Gaza was not occupied. Israel left in 2005.

Stop spreading misinformation.

scoofyOP25d ago

I’m talking about Gaza and the West Bank. Israel blockading the Gaza is very obviously de facto governance.

If you can’t enter and leave your country freely, you don’t that autonomy.

I’m not even some Palestinian political advocate. We still cannot pretend that Israel isn’t effectively in control of the Palestinian Territories.

bbshfishe25d ago

How many times were they offered statehood. How many times did they attack Israel? Why is there a wall? You know what happened when the wall went up and security blockades went in? The number of Palestinian suicide bombings dropped. Palestinians have decades of history of terrorism. They could have been like Singapore. But they chose terrorism.

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bbshfishe25d ago

Prior to October 7th. Gaza was not occupied. Israel left in 2005.

Stop spreading misinformation.

scoofyOP25d ago

I’m talking about Gaza and the West Bank. Israel blockading the Gaza is very obviously de facto governance.

If you can’t enter and leave your country freely, you don’t that autonomy.

I’m not even some Palestinian political advocate. We still cannot pretend that Israel isn’t effectively in control of the Palestinian Territories.

bbshfishe25d ago

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