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0 pointspcthrowaway27d ago0 comments

> While the US certainly isn't pure, its scale of surveillance intrusion is light compared to China

I assume that for someone to believe this, they either have to believe the U.S. has poorer surveillance capability than China, or, more likely, they consider U.S. surveillance unintrusive and Chinese surveillance intrusive.

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kvuj27d ago

> ... or, more likely, they consider U.S. surveillance unintrusive and Chinese surveillance intrusive.

Of course. What's the point of surveillance if you're not going to use it to enforce dogma? I think you can reasonably evaluate a country's surveillance by looking at the pettiness of the arrests & censorship they make.

See this chinese tech reviewer[1] being bullied by the government for putting a spotlight on chinese phone makers cheating about benchmarks. I'm not sure the US is at this point yet...

[1] https://old.reddit.com/r/hardware/comments/1rfw6oj/hardware_...

deaux27d ago

> See this chinese tech reviewer[1] being bullied by the government for putting a spotlight on chinese phone makers cheating about benchmarks. I'm not sure the US is at this point yet...

Plenty of signs point towards this being a case where it wasn't the government, so it's not a good example. Instead it looks to have been the tech companies filing takedowns and threatening lawsuits. Especially when it comes to China, this is a big difference.

You should've pointed towards more clear-cut examples like Naomi Wu and Peng Shuai. But those cases are less unthinkable in the US, and it should be uncontroversial to say that it's what's been worked towards.

kvuj26d ago

Geekerwan confirmed that it was a "greater force", not a manufacturer.

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