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0 pointsnmfisher27d ago0 comments

As a complete outsider, I genuinely believe that Dario et al are well-intentioned. But I also believe they are a terrible combination of arrogant and naive - loudly beating the drum that they created an unstoppable superintelligence that could destroy the world, and thinking that they are the only ones who can control it.

I mean if you sign a contract with the Department of War, what on Earth did you think was going to happen?

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themacguffinman27d ago

Not this, because this is completely unprecedented? In fact, the Pentagon already signed an Anthropic contract with safe terms 6 months ago, that initial negotiation was when Anthropic would have made a decision to part ways. It was totally absurd for the govt to turn around and threaten to change the deal, just a ridiculous and unprecedented level of incompetence.

pjc5027d ago

> was totally absurd for the govt to turn around and threaten to change the deal, just a ridiculous and unprecedented level of incompetence.

I think in this case it's safe to assume malice rather than incompetence. It's a lot like the parable of the frog and the scorpion.

jazzyjackson27d ago

Government always has the option to cancel contracts for convenience, they knew what they signed up for or else they were clueless and shouldn’t be playing with DoD

themacguffinman27d ago

The keyword is "cancel", not threaten seizure with the DPA and destruction with a baseless supply chain risk designation.

baq27d ago

If they made a completely private nuclear reactor and ended up with a pile of weapons grade plutonium, what do you think the department of war would do? It was completely obvious it would happen, as it will be not surprising when laws are passed and all involved will have choose between quit or quit and go to jail. There are western countries in which you’d just end up in a ditch, dead, so they should think themselves lucky for doing the ai superintelligence thing in the US.

ben_w27d ago

The US government clearly doesn't take seriously the claim that AI is more dangerous than (or even as dangerous as) nukes, because if they did they wouldn't allow anyone except the military to develop or use them, they wouldn't allow their export or for them to be made available for use by foreigners like me, they wouldn't allow their own civilians to use them, they would probably be having a repeat of the cases in the cold war where they tried to argue certain inventions were "born secret" and could not be published even if they were developed by people who were not sworn to secrecy.

sebzim450027d ago

I don't think the US has ever done/threatened anything like this to a US company so it's not surprising that Anthropic were caught off guard.

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themacguffinman27d ago

pjc5027d ago

> was totally absurd for the govt to turn around and threaten to change the deal, just a ridiculous and unprecedented level of incompetence.

I think in this case it's safe to assume malice rather than incompetence. It's a lot like the parable of the frog and the scorpion.

jazzyjackson27d ago

Government always has the option to cancel contracts for convenience, they knew what they signed up for or else they were clueless and shouldn’t be playing with DoD

themacguffinman27d ago

The keyword is "cancel", not threaten seizure with the DPA and destruction with a baseless supply chain risk designation.

baq27d ago

ben_w27d ago

sebzim450027d ago

I don't think the US has ever done/threatened anything like this to a US company so it's not surprising that Anthropic were caught off guard.

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