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0 pointsfreeopinion2mo ago0 comments

Of course there are tools focusing on this. It takes a little getting used to how prevalent it is. My editor now can anticipate the next three lines of code I intend to write complete with what values I want to feed to the function I was about to invoke. It all shows up in an autocomplete annotation for me. I just type the first two or three characters and press tab to get everything exactly how I was about to type it in--including an accurate comment worded exactly in my voice.

Is that what you mean by IA?

For example, I type "for" and my editor guesses I want to iterate over the list that is the second argument of the function for which I am currently building the body. So it offers to complete the rest of the loop condition for me. Not only did it anticipate that I am writing a for loop. It figures out what I want to iterate over, and perhaps even that I want to enumerate the iteration so I have the index and the value. Imagine if I had written a comment to explain my intent for the function before I started writing the function body. How much better could it augment my intellect?

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embedding-shape2mo ago

To be honest, I'm not quite sure what the ideal UX looks like yet. The AI assisted autocomplete is too little, but the idea of saying "Build X for purpose Y" is too high-level. Maintaining Markdown documents that the AI implements, also feels too high-level, but letting the human fully drive the implementation probably again too low-level.

I'm guessing the direction I'd prefer, would be tooling built to accept and be driven by humans, but allowed to be extended/corrected by AI, or something like that, maybe.

Maybe a slight contradiction, and very wish-washy/hand-wavey, but I haven't personally quite figured out what I think would be best yet either, what the right level actually is, so probably the best I could say right now :) Sorry!

zozbot2342mo ago

The Markdown documents can be at any level. Just keep asking the AI to break each individual step in the plan down into substeps, then ask it to implement after you review. It's great for the opposite flow too - reverse engineering from working legacy code into mid-level and high-level designs, then proposing good refactors.

embedding-shape2mo ago

Yes, I'm talking about a UX that could handle that for the programmer instead, as an example. Zoom out a bit :)

eikenberry2mo ago

I think this could be a decent interface with one addition, a way to comment on the completion being suggested. You could ask it for a different completion or to extend the completion, do something different, do a specific thing, whatever. An active way to "explain my intent" with the AI (besides leaving comments hinting at what you want) in addition to the passive completion system.

jibal2mo ago

Which editor?

> Imagine if I had written a comment to explain my intent for the function before I started writing the function body.

The loon programming language (a Lisp) has "semantic functions", where the body is just the doc comment.

Barbing2mo ago

Still magical a few years in?

>Imagine if I had written a comment to explain my intent for the function before I started writing the function body.

This in particular is not dissimilar from opening a chat with a model and giving it a prompt as usual but then adding at the end:

Begin your response below:

  { func

j / k navigate · click thread line to collapse

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embedding-shape2mo ago

I'm guessing the direction I'd prefer, would be tooling built to accept and be driven by humans, but allowed to be extended/corrected by AI, or something like that, maybe.

zozbot2342mo ago

embedding-shape2mo ago

Yes, I'm talking about a UX that could handle that for the programmer instead, as an example. Zoom out a bit :)

eikenberry2mo ago

jibal2mo ago

Which editor?

> Imagine if I had written a comment to explain my intent for the function before I started writing the function body.

The loon programming language (a Lisp) has "semantic functions", where the body is just the doc comment.

Barbing2mo ago

Still magical a few years in?

>Imagine if I had written a comment to explain my intent for the function before I started writing the function body.

This in particular is not dissimilar from opening a chat with a model and giving it a prompt as usual but then adding at the end:

Begin your response below:

  { func

j / k navigate · click thread line to collapse