The problem you’re suffering from is assuming that the limited range of situations you’re familiar with is the same as what everyone else is doing.
In the past 8 years I’ve led the architecture of a startup - cloud + app dev. Then spent almost 4 years working at AWS ProServe involved with large cloud + app dev “cloud application modernization” projects and now 2 years doing the same as a staff level consultant at a 3rd party consulting firm. I think I’ve seen my fair share of how large private companies, startups, government organizations and colleges work.
A lot of my projects pre AI involved bringing modern DevOps practices to an organization - convincing operations to use IAC and best practices and have them more embedded into the dev teams.
Team A has a devops engineer, Teams B through F have one, how do they have any capacity to pursue long term strategical projects, save money and operational effort with centralized hosting and tooling, and basically have some autonomy, when they are enslaved to a Scrum Master and some hokey pokey Fibonacci numbers and T Shirt Size nonsense having to argue priorities in every Sprint against people who don't care about operations?
That's what embedded devops is to me - an operational role enslaved to dev leads, the poor guy who has to troubleshoot a failed release while the devs are at the bar.
Unless my straw man is wildly off, no thanks to that embedded stuff.
If you are just throwing things over the fence - you’re an “operations” team and get none of the benefits of DevOps
