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0 pointspklausler4mo ago0 comments

FWIW, Fortran does have submodules.

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groby_b4mo ago· 4 in thread

I suppose we shall amend to "The determined Real Programmer will fix FORTRAN" ;)

But, for the folks who didn't grow up with the Real Programmer jokes, this is rooted in a context of FORTRAN 77. Which was, uh, not famous for its readability or modularity. (But got stuff done, so there's that)

zabzonk4mo ago

I wrote a lot of F77 code way back when, including an 8080 simulator similar to that written by Gates and Allen used to build their BASIC for Altair. I don't know what language they wrote theirs in, but mine was pretty readable, just a bit late. And it was very portable - Dec10, VAX, IBM VM/CMS with almost no changes.

I think F77 was a pretty well designed language, given the legacy stuff it had to support.

groby_b4mo ago

It was well designed. Hence the "it got stuff done".

But it was also behind the times. And, if we're fair, half of its reputation comes from the fact that half of the F77 code was written by PhDs, who usually have... let's call it a unique style of writing software.

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pklauslerOP4mo ago

I'm so old, those jokes were about me.

groby_b4mo ago

Fogeys unite! ;) (They're about me, too)

j / k navigate · click thread line to collapse

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5 comments · 1 top-level

groby_b4mo ago· 4 in thread

I suppose we shall amend to "The determined Real Programmer will fix FORTRAN" ;)

But, for the folks who didn't grow up with the Real Programmer jokes, this is rooted in a context of FORTRAN 77. Which was, uh, not famous for its readability or modularity. (But got stuff done, so there's that)

zabzonk4mo ago

I wrote a lot of F77 code way back when, including an 8080 simulator similar to that written by Gates and Allen used to build their BASIC for Altair. I don't know what language they wrote theirs in, but mine was pretty readable, just a bit late. And it was very portable - Dec10, VAX, IBM VM/CMS with almost no changes.

I think F77 was a pretty well designed language, given the legacy stuff it had to support.

groby_b4mo ago

It was well designed. Hence the "it got stuff done".

But it was also behind the times. And, if we're fair, half of its reputation comes from the fact that half of the F77 code was written by PhDs, who usually have... let's call it a unique style of writing software.

1 more reply

pklauslerOP4mo ago

I'm so old, those jokes were about me.

groby_b4mo ago

Fogeys unite! ;) (They're about me, too)

j / k navigate · click thread line to collapse