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0 pointsArainach1mo ago0 comments

No, not by a long shot, unless you define "class" so tightly as to only include those vehicles and no competitors.

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What would you define as better? I rent various EVs regularly, and I'm still yet to find something that beats it on performance, range and price. That's all before comfort and features, which again most seem to lack. There are a couple pretty close to Tesla, but nothing that clearly beats it that I've driven.

ArainachOP1mo ago

In the US market, the Hyundai Ioniq 6 has better build quality, identical range in real world conditions, a ton of comfort, and no threat that their CEO will go off his meds and take away your driving assist features unless you pay a ~~ransom~~ subscription fee.

Internationally, BYD destroys it.

apublicfrog1mo ago

Ioniq 6:

Range: 429km

Price: $70,116 AUD

Performance: 0-100 5.1s

Tesla model 3:

Range: 520km

Price: $59,979 AUD

Performance: 0-100 6.1s

It's pretty hard to argue like for like here. I've driven the Ioniq before and it's fine, but it looks and feels like a 2015 Mazda inside.

BYD is worse in every category, I have no idea what you're talking about.

theshrike791mo ago

As a car? Anything. Hyundai Ioniq 5 for example.

As a computer? Not many to be honest. Dog Mode is an afternoon project for a junior programmer and still _ZERO_ car manufacturers have copied it.

cogman101mo ago

Tesla's greatest strength is/was that they did almost everything inhouse. The reason all the other manufacturers struggle to do basic things like dog mode is because they are almost all relying on the supply chain for everything. No infotainment/HVAC supplier has a dog mode so it doesn't exist.

The obvious downside to that is that when Tesla cuts back on R&D, it becomes painfully obvious to the car owners. I'm not expecting anything like dog mode to show up ever again.

verzali1mo ago

Have you ever tried a BYD?

apublicfrog1mo ago

Yes, I've rented them on many occasions and they are worse on range, comfort and acceleration. They have that cheap, plasticy Camry feel, and depending on the model they have two different screens that are out of sync with each other.

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apublicfrog1mo ago

ArainachOP1mo ago

Internationally, BYD destroys it.

apublicfrog1mo ago

Ioniq 6:

Range: 429km

Price: $70,116 AUD

Performance: 0-100 5.1s

Tesla model 3:

Range: 520km

Price: $59,979 AUD

Performance: 0-100 6.1s

It's pretty hard to argue like for like here. I've driven the Ioniq before and it's fine, but it looks and feels like a 2015 Mazda inside.

BYD is worse in every category, I have no idea what you're talking about.

theshrike791mo ago

As a car? Anything. Hyundai Ioniq 5 for example.

As a computer? Not many to be honest. Dog Mode is an afternoon project for a junior programmer and still _ZERO_ car manufacturers have copied it.

cogman101mo ago

The obvious downside to that is that when Tesla cuts back on R&D, it becomes painfully obvious to the car owners. I'm not expecting anything like dog mode to show up ever again.

verzali1mo ago

Have you ever tried a BYD?

apublicfrog1mo ago

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